Posting this here because I think it gives some useful additional information for those using mechanical wheel bases. Specifically with setting low force boost. https://www.reddit.com/r/AUTOMOBILI...mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I disagree.Yesterday I was able to test the gear drive and the LFB value with a Logitech G923.Yes, LFB is needed for these gear bases, but as little as possible to strengthen the center.LFB causes vibrations and notches in the driving feel, and it doesn't eliminate the "dead zone" you'll get with the default settings.This "dead zone" is about 2 degrees left and right of the center until the counterpressure is felt again in the wheel.The only advantage is a firmer center.Setting an LFB of 50% or more is therefore counterproductive in my opinion because it amplifies vibrations and greatly increases the rattle of the gears on the gear bases.So you'll feel less "good FFB details," but you'll feel the vibrations of the gears even more, but that has nothing to do with FFB.
Did you try using the method in the post to test minforce and to set low force boost? How much LFB did you use? I would have thought a G923 would have a minforce from around 5-10 giving a LFB of 20-40, a good amount below 50. You say you disagree but your opinion on LFB actually agrees with the post. LFB should be set to the minimum possible. Using the wheel check tool allows a way of finding that minimum possible amount. ( due to the less than 100% accuracy of the wheelcheck tool it actually only gives a close to minimum possible amount, so fine tuning by feel is still needed but not more than 1 or 2 up or down on the LFB slider. )
He's talking about 48% LFB and the rest should be balanced with 52% FX up to 100%, if I understand the translation correctly? I had 20-25% LFB set yesterday, regardless of whether it was in the defaults or my file. I described the rest in the post above why I'm not a fan of LFB. No, I don't need such tools. I go by feel and what I feel on the steering wheel and what I can read in the FFB graph. But to each his own, if it helps someone, it's fine. It wasn't an attack against you it's just my opinion
48 was just an example if minforce is tested at 12, if your tested minforce is 5 low force boost would be set to 20. Even two G923's may have different results. from my experience, I would think on a G923 the tested result would be very close to what you were using. Seems your knowledge and experience allowed you to set it by feel. So I think the post is still useful for less experienced users that don't know how the FFB should feel. I also am not a fan of LFB and am happy with my DD that I don't need to worry about it. The FX part also says that users may wish to use less FX.
I've read these recommendations, and to be honest, I'm confused. Further down, in response to a query, he recommends a LFB of 45% for (G29/G923) and 50% for (G25/G27). With such a high LFB, you'd have to drastically reduce the gain in the game. But that wouldn't make sense with bases with 2 nm because you'd lose a lot of FFB detail. As you also mentioned, the LFB should be much lower because otherwise there would be undesirable side effects, as I already mentioned. Unfortunately, it's very confusing, and I think a beginner won't have a chance of understanding it
I think that was in response to the other person saying they use the default settings, they recommended those settings if that person didn't want to use the wheelcheck tool. Rather than the default 50 and 60 given by Reiza. I am not sure about the rest of it, but the wheelcheck tool is good in finding minforce or LFB settings, I used a Logitech wheel for 18 years, various sims have used minforce or LFB and I found it got me close to a good spot. Most Logitech users use excessively high LFB to try and make the wheel feel stronger, destroying all the forces they should be feeling. At least by posting the link it led to our conversation which will perhaps be helpful to others.
I will suggest that is easily possible to set-up a gear/mechanical wheel properly using only the process outlined in the video here. That is the best first step--to use your own hands and sensations as the guide. If you want to try @Xzanman's linked approach afterwards to compare, go ahead.
The problem with saying set it by feel is that those new to sim racing (and most likely to be using a mechanical base) have no idea what FFB should feel like. Andy East's video does a great job of explaining most of it, but as he is using a DD wheel only briefly touches on LFB. Perhaps he could make a follow up video covering it in more detail and also include how to use the in game telemetry tools to avoid clipping. Better still it would be great for Reiza to include a detailed beginners guide with the game.
I agree with you about LFB and the negative effects it has, as I described. Honestly, someone who only owns one base can't judge how another system will behave. I didn't know before either, but through experience and the various systems, I've become aware of a lot. Even with DDS, there are enormous differences, which I've experienced myself, not to mention the differences in drive types. The perfect solution doesn't exist and never will, but you can try to do the best you can with your own hardware and your own personal taste. And if this tool makes gear bases easier for people, then that's a good thing
