Game Freezes For A Few Seconds

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  1. Cyatic

    Cyatic New Member

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    AMS2 freezes for a few seconds then continues. Happens when I’m racing, qualifying, or just test driving. I’m running triple monitors at 75Hz. I can hear sound, just no movement. I’ve turned off UDP, tried changing render frame ahead from 1 to 4, tried borderless, no race replays, installed visual C++ runtimes, turned off steam overlay, no downloading while gaming, verified integrity of files, installed on NVME, no usb dongles, and tried alt-tabbing out and into game. So by the time the game unfreezes, I’m about to slam into a wall. I’m current on all drivers, video and chipset drivers as well. Any help would be appreciated.
    Specs:
    Ryzen 5 3600x
    16gb ram
    Rtx 3070
    Windows 11
     
  2. Cholton82

    Cholton82 Active Member

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    Try setting it too high priority in task manager by alt tabbing out when the game is running.
     
  3. FADOQ

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    On MP IT is a known issue from forever especially on ranked session.

    Otherwise some people complain about this ( offline) and There is still no clear reason other than Madness engine behavior. On my Side during offline session it is almost Never happening

    Some people have suggest to move the game on other Drive than OS Helps... If you have both on the same Drive, Give it a try, it is pretty easy with steam wihout the need to reinstall everytings
     
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    I’ve noticed it especially during change in weather. Do you race in real weather or have multiple weather slots assigned ?
     
  5. RickMandar

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    I have also freezes between 1-4 seconds offline. It occurs each race generally before 10 laps.
    I have tried Daytona, Monza, Monaco. it occured on each track..
    I use VR and I launched FPS VR to see if there is some overloading or overheating on GPU or CPU. The answer is no. And the freeze is well displayed on FPS VR.
    I have tried PCars2 on Spa and Daytona and I noticed nothing but it was only race of 10-12 laps.
    I will try longer next time. Not sur the Madness engine is the cause.
    The strange thing is that I don't remember I had some freezes in the past.
     
  6. FADOQ

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    On FPS VR on my Side I can see a flat Line during the freeze .. I guess this is Also your case Isn't ?

    What Helmet do you have ?

    I have a G2 and a valve index.. now I m thinking about it I think I have Bigger freezes with the G2 ...
     
  7. RickMandar

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    Yes an orange flatline and I have a G2.
    I will try with no VR but I have no problem with other sims so I don't think it's VR related.
     
  8. RickMandar

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    Just in case I see tons of tmhidusb.sys in the window events logs.
    The events are related to the thrustmaster device (wheelsteer).
    They are recorded all along the game even during race several times per seconds.
    I have checked in rFactor 2 and these events are recorded only at startup, no event is recorded during race. I don't know if this is a device initialization log.
    In such case maybe there are device initiializations launched over and over which create
    lags.
    Few odds it's the reason but who knows. It could be a good idea to investigate.
     
  9. FADOQ

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    Indeed ... High rate Writing on disk can cause issues.

    I Will check on my Side with my accuforce wheel.

    However in my case ( and as reported on other thread). Lags occur mostly during MP ranked session and seems happening when crashes in view occur or when people resign/quit during race
     
  10. FADOQ

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    I didn t fing any flood log on my Side.

    But it make me think that I ve disable Win update because it look online several Time for update and as soon he find something Makes download.. this causes lag as well
     
  11. Marius H

    Marius H Internal Beta Tester Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You've UDP switched on? Only use shared memory.
     
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    Bad new...Same events flood on PCars2 but no freeze on this game.
     
  13. FADOQ

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    That's what he notified on His first post at least , that he set it to off :)
     
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    Marius H Internal Beta Tester Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sorry. Was too tired, hehe.
     
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    I have found the solution for me though I still have some interrogations.
    I changed recently the installation disk of AMS2 from internal SSD to USB3 external drive.
    I swap back today to SSD and freezes have almost disappeared.
    It remains one small freeze much below 1sec during a race of ten laps (several races tested) so it's playable now.
    I don't know if this remaining freeze is the same as before but faster.
    However I don't understand why there is disk operations during a race given the fact nor USB3 neither SSD are system disks, they only stored steam apps.
    Why AMS2 reads some a file during a race (I say read because I don't see any modified file during the race) ?
    Or is it steam which reads some cache ?
     
  17. FADOQ

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    My guess it is something related with the Madness engine... With others racing games I ve Never encoured freezes but other players jittering a lot sometimes.

    Not sure if reiza can really do something about it on their own. The problem is pretty obvious and reported many Times with clear parameters to reproduce, so probably it is related to the game ADN with the graphic engine. On FPSvr you can see a flat Line like a dead body on monitor when freezes occur. The game litterally stops.
    I think they Said they Will look at it for the next few release, whitout commiting on a date. I guess we can expect some mitigation but I m not very confident on a full fix soon. ( Total personnal guess)
     
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