Great Job Reiza, here are my thoughts after 3 hours (the best gaming sim?)

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  1. José Santos

    José Santos New Member

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    I decided to post my opinion here instead of making a review on Steam about a game that's still in early release and after only 3 hours of gameplay. I'll review it once it's established and I played it enough.
    So I'll start by saying I've tested ALL sim racing games out there except AMS (because of the lack of VR) and ACC (because of my limited system I know it won't run VR well enough). I won't mention Dirt Rally 2.0 or any games that aren't pure track racing. I won't mention Project Cars 2 as well because I don't think it's a pure sim racer and I didn't play it for long). As you noticed, I'm a WMR VR user (Lenovo Explorer), my system is low end for VR but I manage to play all games with no big problems (all of them in the lowest quality). So I'll rate all the games in different categories so you know where I think AMS 2 is, starting with the most important categories IMO (note: I haven't played Iracing since December so can't comment on any update since then):

    Physics: Rfactor2 (RF2) > Iracing > Raceroom(R2E) > AMS 2 > Assetto Corsa (AC). This for me is where RF2 stands out the most, but AMS 2 is feeling great to me. Note that I haven't experienced any tire wear, flat spots, brake fade, etc since I only played 3 hours of AMS 2.
    FFB: RF2 > AMS 2 > ...maybe R2E or Iracing, depending on the cars > AC, etc. Great job Reiza, there's still room for improvement but it's really good and I just played an early release.
    Game modes: AMS 2 (once it has Championship/Timetrial) > AC > RF2/Iracing/R2E
    Graphics: AMS 2 (apart from the vehicle details and bugs) > Iracing > R2E > RF2
    Multiplayer: Iracing > AMS 2 (once we get Leaderboards and a Ranking system, holy sh*t!) > R2E > AC (has the most populated lobby but lacks rating and players that take sim racing seriously) > RF2.
    Cars (amount): AC > RF2 (because of mods) > Iracing > R2E > AMS 2 .
    Cars (variety): Iracing (oval racing, dirt racing, track racing) > AMS 2 (truck racing, kart racing, classics, etc) > RF2 > AC > R2E
    Price: AC > AMS 2 > RF2 > R2E > iracing (I mean, I HATE IRACING PAYMENT PLAN, you subscribe the game, you pay for cars, you pay for tracks, WTF???)
    AI: RF2/AMS 2 (depending on car/track combo) > AC (don't take this too seriously because I haven't tried R2E or Iracing's AI)
    Weather: RF2/AMS 2 (haven't played enough of both on strange weather conditions but none of them feel like real life right now) > AC (sol mod but only for visuals, not for feel). R2E and Iracing don't have dynamic weather.
    Mods: AC > RF2. It'd be awesome to have mods in AMS 2.
    Performance: Iracing (awful loading times) > AMS 2 (the fastest loading) > R2E > AC > RF2
    UI: R2E > AC (with content manager, not the best for VR though) > AMS2/RF2 (AMS 2 needs way more options for AI, multiplayer filters, multiplayer session info (are they racing, are they mid qualify, etc. Replays need some work, I can't find chat using VR, etc)
    Overall: RF2 (it's a good racing sim but with an awful UI and awful multiplayer but it's the best Simulator) > AMS 2 > AC > R2E > Iracing (Iracing is the worst because of their payment plan which compromises the whole experience for me).

    So if you're patient enough to read through this, you found out that my opinion is AMS 2 is a candidate to the new best racing simulator.
    There is still sooo much to IMPROVE (so so much) and there's not a perfect racing sim. For endurance racing and real seriously racing (private leagues, etc) RF2 is still the king. For "rich gamers" that enjoy getting in an online race that'll be taken seriously most of the time, Iracing is the king and it'll be hard to dethrone it. But AMS 2 is a really good when it comes to putting all the pieces together, if it manages to overcome some of these initial early access game problems)

    In order for AMS 2 to stand out as the best racing sim:
    -Improve Physics (COLLISIONS, tire model, chassis flex, tire wear, flat spots, brake fade, driving under the weather, track grip (dry line vs wet line, rubber accumulation, etc);
    -Come up with a good ranked multiplayer and online leagues;
    -Car damage!!! (first mechanical and then graphical)
    -Improve AI (more options for fiddling with AI, get rid of the AI train (RF2 suffers from this as well)
    -Flags and racing rules
    -EMBRACE MODS
     
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  2. AlexBfromG

    AlexBfromG Well-Known Member

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    As far as Mods, im fully okay with just opening up the possibility to make skins, assuming we get great DLC.
    there are many tiny issues with the game, like windshield wipers not working, the AI needing alot of attention as well. in formation lap, the car doesnt start fast enough and you get a penalty.

    graphics are very good, track list is very good
     
  3. José Santos

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    Yeah many tiny issues but I'm assuming they'll be fixed on the official v1 release. The DLCs are priced really high, doesn't really make much sense paying way more for a few content than what I paid for the full game, hence my interest with mods. And mods don't really require official licensing.
     
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    After playing for a few more hours I have to say physics do need some work, grabbing formula Vee on Rf2 and then AMS 2 is a night and day difference and I get the PC2 feel on AMS 2. The car has way more grip, recovers so easily from a spin, I mean I can enter a corner in a reverse drift and catch it. This is global across most cars. On RF2 driving a vee you can spin just by lifting the accelerator. I never driven one of these in real life hut I'm guessing it'll feel way more like RF2. Collisions need serious SERIOUS improvement, they're awful and when you crash into a barrier, if you're lucky enough not to get stuck, it slows you down like those things in Mario kart. Colliding with opponents is like a coin toss for who gets binned VS who makes it (more likely it affects none of you which seems so "arcade") . I get its early access but these more than anything need solving.
     
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