Question on bump/rebound setting in AMS1

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  1. marenghino

    marenghino New Member

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    Hi all, I ask your help to understand how to manage the setting values in AMS1.
    That's because there is not a manual about how bumps/rebounds work in AMS1.
    So may you please tell me if what I write hereunder is correct ?

    If car UNDERSTEERS under acceleration while turning
    · Decrease FRONT REBOUND (front will resist extension)
    · Increase REAR BUMP (rear will resist compression)

    If car OVERSTEERS under acceleration while turning
    · Decrease REAR BUMP (rear will compress more easily)
    · Increase FRONT REBOUND (front will extend more easily)

    If car UNDERSTEERS under braking and turn in
    · Decrease FRONT BUMP (front will compress more easily)
    · Increase REAR REBOUND (rear will extend more easily)

    If car OVERSTEERS under braking and turn in
    · Decrease REAR REBOUND (rear will resist extension)
    · Increase FRONT BUMP (front will resist compression)

    Is that correct or is the opposite ?
     
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  2. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    That pretty much works out, yup.
     
  3. Spin

    Spin Active Member

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    Decreasing front-rebound will not slow down (ie. "resist") extension. Increasing front-rebound will slow down ("resist") extension. Decreasing front front-rebound will speed-up ("more easily") extension.

    On one hand, decreasing front-rebound may increase understeer because the front extension resists less so the weight will be shifted from front to rear faster. On the other hand, decreasing front-rebound may decrease understeer because the front extension resists less so the weight will be shifted from inside-front to outside-front faster. So decreasing front-rebound can increase or decrease understeer.
    Increasing front-rebound will make the front extend more slowly (resist more).
    Increasing rear-rebound will make the rear extend more slowly (resist more).
    Decreasing rear-rebound will make the rear extend faster (ie. more easily). If you want to slow down the extension (ie. make extension more difficult), you must increase (harder) the rear-rebound.

    - Higher # = more damping = stiffer = compress (bump) or extend (rebound) slower (more difficult)
    - Lower # = less damping = softer = compress (bump) or extend (rebound) faster (more easily)

    Some times dampers can do the opposite for pure turning (no acceleration) and pure acceleration (no turning). For example:
    - softer front-rebound can give less understeer (or more oversteer) during turning because it makes weight shift to the outside tyre faster.
    - softer front-rebound can give more understeer (or less oversteer) during acceleration because it makes weight shift to the rear tyres faster.

    So it's a complex balancing act because softer front-rebound should give more (or quicker gain) front-grip in terms of lateral weight-shift but should also give less (quicker loss) front-grip in terms of longitudinal weight-shift. So which one takes precedent?
     
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