Vive pro 2 settings / results

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  1. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi

    Anybody out there managed to find a sweet spot with the vive pro 2?
    I have been running a Valve index just great in AMS2 and wanted the increased resolution.
    Now I am really struggling with frame rates...
    I'm not great with PC as I have always been a mac person - this my gaming PC
    It's a pretty heavy weight beast
    RTX3090 EVGA water cooled
    i9 9900KS oc to 5ghz - plenty of RAM
    Vive pro 2
    Motion rig
    Fanatec dd1 / pedals / gears

    All the drivers card and headset are up to date
    I cant help but think that i should be getting better FPS
    I often have it drop down to 45FPS !!
    I have it set as 90 HZ
    I have already dropped the textures and shadows down a load

    All of the Msaa / Fxaa / supersampling are really tough to figure out
    Add to that The way the vale super sampling interacts is all confusing as hell
    With the Index it was at 150% and smooth as butter
    If I just knock it right down will I lose all of the benefits of the increased resolution the Vive Pro 2 brings?
    I can see from the thread there seems to be an issue with the 30 series cards
    Anyone out there found the magic combination?
    Any one have any help please???
     
  2. James Lee GTE

    James Lee GTE Active Member

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    Unfortunately for us sim racers you have hit the nail on the head.
    You can’t run the new gen headsets anywhere near their native resolution, on top end 20 or 30 series cards.
    The rift S and index have nowhere near the same amount of pixels as a G2 or a VP2. Which makes the the rift S and index easy to run for a top end 20 series card and a total breeze for a top end 30 series cards.
    The G2 and VP2 with current gen cards, you will need to drop steam resolution settings to probably around 70% as a baseline and each sim will have its own peak you can push too.
    I’m holding out for the top end 40 series before I go near a G2, because I know I’ll be dropping to about 60% steam resolution or less with a slightly over clocked 2080ti.
    With a rift S I’m at 100% without it breaking a sweat. With the quest 2 I’m not even close to its native resolution for sim racing.
    When the top end 40 series cards come out, hopefully we can hit 100% res in steam resolution or oculus resolution, for G2, VP2 and Q2, but still not guaranteed and unlikely too.
    As you have demonstrated current gen cards you need to make sacrifices and trade offs. 100% resolution equals a choppy 45 FPS or you can drop resolution and get 90 FPS.
    I personally do all my sim racing at 80hz as that’s what I’m used to and I honestly can’t tell the difference between 80 and 90 in any sim I use.
    Hope this helps.
     
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  3. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    hi james
    thanks for the reply
    it makes me wonder whether i should just ditch the Vive pro 2...
    such a shame

    so much for the 3090 being able to smash anything
     
  4. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    for me being able to keep a steady 90 ( ish) make s a huge improvement to the experience
    I have just tried hardware accelerated gpu scheduling
    that was worse..
    :(
     
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    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    i guess its fine if you are playing beat sabre
     
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    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I also seem to be getting a HUGE number or CPU dropped frames that i never experienced before

    makes it a juddery mess
    pretty much undrivable now
     
  7. James Lee GTE

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    I would not ditch any of your gear at all.
    What we all need to remember is that VR is a niche, and sim racing in VR is a niche within a niche.
    For these reasons sim’s aren’t fully optimised for VR and in most cases VR was something that gets added months or years after a sims release. That’s why sim racing is super taxing in VR. It’s not built from the ground up for VR, it’s not fully optimised for VR like half life Alyx is and the sim racing studios make most of their money from the pancake racers.
    The gear you have is awesome, so I’d say concentrate on the amazing things it can do in vr sim racing and not what it can’t do compared to “normal vr games”.
    I tried sim racing on a Rift CV1 and thought that was amazing at the time, compare that to what we have access to now in such a short space of time is amazing!
     
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    Technically at the time the 3090 came out there was no G2 and VP2 so it did smash the vr headsets available at that time.
    VR headsets have advanced quicker than GPU’s have, but now nvidia are making dlss for certain vr games, maybe sims will get a piece of that too one day.
    The 3090 will smash normal vr games on a VP2 easy peasy. For the sim racers and the flight sim people, we aren’t quite there yet.
     
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  9. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    hi james
    yes i can see we are at the bleeding edge of tech here

    what would be your suggestions to get a playable game - your steam looked pretty good

    I am stuck at 45 fps atm :(
    and i cant stand jaggies on the road...
    i had all of those dialed out with the index
    any thoughts on the best technique to find a sweet spot?
     
  10. DaWorstPlaya

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    Also don't forget the Vive Pro 2 doesn't work Steam motion smoothing ATM (unlike the G2), so you're going to be stuck with 45fps until you drop your settings. I believe you have to use the motion smoothing feature built into the HTC's Vive Pro 2's software. Goodluck!
     
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  11. James Lee GTE

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    I used to use my rift S for sim racing and then moved to quest 2 instead. I kept all my in game settings exactly the same for quest 2 that I had set for rift S. The only change I had to make was on the oculus resolution slider in the oculus app. I had to downscale by around 30% to get it to give me a smooth 80 FPS.
    It was worth the money because it looks noticeably better than rift S for sim racing and for games like half life Alyx it is a million times better than rift S because I can bump the oculus resolution slider way up compared to sims. It would look even better if quest used display port instead of usb, but that’s a different story.
    In your case, I would do exactly the same thing. Keep all your in game settings exactly the same as when you used your index. Then jump onto the steam resolution slider, drop to 70% as a starting point and work out your sweet spot from there.
    If you remain unsatisfied and unhappy with the results and you only use vr headsets for sim racing and aren’t worried about controller tracking, then it might be worth returning the VP2 and getting the reverb G2.
     
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  12. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks James
    I will give that a try
     

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