VR performance hit

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  1. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    HI - I am really hoping someone can help

    I have Been away from racing for a couple of months due to a accident and reconstruction of my leg ( sadly the throttle / brake leg ) . Now I am JUST about able to crawl into my rig and do a few laps. :)

    Trouble is I am now getting absolutely appalling framerates in VR
    Locked at 45 fps - add to that over 50% dropped frames and the graph in permanent orange
    It never used to do that.
    I have turned everything down
    reduced SS in steam to 70%
    Absolutely NOTHING makes any difference whatsoever.
    I know when I used to try and tune it you always saw some change / improvement


    Has something significantly changed while I was on morphine ?
    Has a new driver come out?

    I have kept AMS2 Updated in steam

    My rig is no slouch
    I am running a Vive pro 2
    Water cooled EVGA RTX 3090
    i9 9900KS o/c to 5ghz
    32g ram

    Anyone that can help - I would be so grateful
    any settings I am missing ?

    I only get about 10 laps before my leg can not do any more
    and at the moment I am spending most of it trying to get the system to run like it was....

    any suggestions???
     
  2. jonathon

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    Probably worth completely removing the NVIDIA driver using DDU then reinstalling a completely clean driver (NVCleanstall seems reasonable for avoiding extra cruft).

    The 511 series seems fine with my Q2.
     
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  3. laekwondo

    laekwondo Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm a little baffled about the Night time performance drop. At daytime (in Oculus performance monitor) i have +30% or so headroom and steady 80 FPS, at night it drops to -40% and without ASW fps is 35-55. I have 30 AI cars in.

    But when I check my GPU and CPU max usage in HWMonitor, both are at 50% or so.. I just don't understand why the FPS/performance drop even though there clearly is GPU and CPU headroom... just weird. (Edit: I think HWMonitor is bugging out and not showing correct utilization)

    I'm using Quest 2 with official Link cable, GPU: RTX 3090, CPU i7-12700K, 32GB RAM
     
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  4. Remco Hitman

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    Same here Marc, much weaker performance since the November (?) update. The way shadows are rendered has changed, which you can't see but you feel it with a big performance hit. Reiza have not responded at all to these complaints. I have a 3090 as well, with a 10900K (10x5GHz) and Index.
    It used to perform so much better, I could do AI races in the rain at any time of day if I used 80fps mode and even record races in 1080p. Impossible now.
     
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  5. Remco Hitman

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    Marc, get fpsVR on Steam to check utilisations and SS levels reported. Supersampling in SteamVR can be set in 2 different places and they add up! General tab and video tab are working together, I was once at 300% SS because general was 150% and video setting was 200%...
     
  6. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the tip - I did as you suggested
    Used DDU and did a completely clean install with new drivers
    ( i removed geo force experience at the same time as so many people seem to think is adds a performance hit )
    It did make a bit of a difference - but not much :(
    still found I was fully orange on CPU usage - driving on my own on a sunny day at R.America
     
  7. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi
    Ok glad to know its not me being stupid... or imagining things
    Likewise - I would have to set up something a bit stupid to notice any form of performance issue. Now I cant get it to perform at any level - I am always locked at 45fps
    I have turned down settings I would have found them unacceptable before..
     
  8. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi yes I have fpsVR
    The steam vr super sampling is a nightmare! I struggle with finding anyone who can explain it fully.
    So I know you can adjust it in the global settings (using the knuckles to jump out of the game ).
    and you can also adjust SS on a game by game basis.
    I am not sure what you mean by video tab?
    Do you mean video setting in game?
    Have i missed something here? I certainly haven't changed anything myself -
    I will go in and look later -
    thanks
     
  9. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have never heard of a night time drop.
    Though its worth trying in the day as i ALWAYS play at night... but its mad to see the headroom you have with a very similar spec PC
    I appreciate I am pushing more pixels around
    I have my old Index still - perhaps I should try that and see if I can make that work
     
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  10. MJV_1973

    MJV_1973 finnish ed AMS2 Club Member

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    Dawn and dusk are problematic, not day and night.
    I have general and game SS at 100%, pretty stable 90fps.
    9700k, RTX 3080, Index
     
  11. Remco Hitman

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    If you're running Time Trials, CPU usage will be unnecessarily high. This is a known bug (just not according to Reiza).
     
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    Just to be extra clear, we're talking about night time in the game :)
     
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  13. BrunoB

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    I agree its a newly introduced bug - and I was one of the guys who voiced it - but to say its a KNOWN bug is probably too much.
    It was introduced with the latest 1330 upd.
    And as often Reiza is completely silent about it.
    But when I hear the severe fps drops you VR guys have I have a suspicion the two things could be related. :confused:
     
  14. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    :whistle:
     
  15. marc phelps

    marc phelps Member AMS2 Club Member

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    No I am generally not running time trials - just a single player race and knock opponents down to zero. Is that a bad practice?
     

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