Does anybody still like the F-Extreme?

I tried it out in beta just today - felt a lot better. Noticed this in the 0.9.35 notes:
F-Extreme: Adjusted default setup

Feels much more planted now - curious as to what might have changed?

 

this is nice to drive now I must admit.

 

I guess what was tweaked was the tyres, producing less WTF-moments. I hope Metalmoro gets similar kind of treatment.

 

Just wanna say does anyone thinknthe v10 really easy compared to this car. I mean it's like on rails I thought the groove tyres supposed to give less grip its really hard to loose it.

 

Well it does use TC. Without TC I have no trouble losing it, though in that condition I still think its easier to drive than the Extreme which I think is fine. The modern cars are very tricky in no small part due to the tendency to wheel slip thanks to all that lovely torque.

 

...and a Mickey Mouse -rearwing and no proper diffuser.

 

I'm not the quickest driver by a long shot and know even less about setups.
I do find that the extreme's brakes seem much weaker than say, the Formula Reiza. Those cars have serious brakes and make the whole drive a lot more "User Friendly".
Don't you guys think if the extremes had stronger brake power they would be a lot easier to control in and out of corners? I battle to slow the car down as apposed to the Reiza which STOP when you tramp on the brakes.

 

F. Reiza has lower topspeeds in general and more downforce, so I guess that helps to reduce braking distances.

 

Thanks Renato - this is exactly the kind of post I like and appreciate!

(It would be great, in the release version of the game to have a very short write up about each car in the game : power/weight/drive train stats, driving characteristics, handling tips and tricks, etc.)

The new default setup makes it much easier to find a drive-able setup - I've been enjoying these much more since that update. I too find the brakes the trickiest part of taming these. There seems to be a very small window between locking up and not stopping in time. I've played around with pressure and balance, and been trying to adjust the balance for each big braking zone on track - but I admit I haven't found my comfort zone yet.

I think Reiza got the nascent 2014 brake by wire systems bang on.

 

Jumped back into the F-Extreme tonight at Interlagos and ran about 40 laps. The changes to the default setup were indeed the improvement that I needed to finally settle into this beast of a car. I was able to put down a lap time of 1:15.7, which I think is pretty solid when Hamilton set the fastest lap of the race in 2015 with a lap time of 1:14.832.

Putting the power down in the F-Extremes is exhilarating to say the least. The sense of speed when utilizing DRS and redlining 8th gear is phenomenal.

 

Apologies if it's already been raised, but I think the F-extreme is a little too fuel efficient. At most tracks I average around 1.2 to 1.5 liters per lap, which seems like not enough. Obviously I know these new V6 turbos are incredibly efficient compared to the old V8's, but am I crazy in thinking these things in AMS should be a little more thirsty than they currently are?

I can do like 35 laps on 50L of fuel at Albert Park.

 

Apparently, Niels is working on some new physics for this car

 

I saw. So far it looks as if you can really ride the curbs more than I remember.

 

I hope he takes a look into the metalmoro too

 

Yeah I saw the video of him driving it. It looks awesome! He said he was doing like 1:12's so hopefully that means it's gotten a lot more driveable. Best I can manage in qualifying trim on the current physics is a high 1:14 at Montreal, and I don't consider myself to be a slouch haha

 

1.12s are possible on the current version, but it's not the kind of laps you can reproduce easily.

The problem with the car is that it feels so stiff, even with the softest settings it still feels bad, i guess that the suspension geometry itself provides too much stiffness.
Since 2014, F1 teams started running soft setups, you can see it on onboards how the wishbones move, so soft on rolling, only stiff on heave movements at the front, but they run higher rakes

 

I tried the FExtreme now as well, after quite some time. Have huge issues, though. The car can't take any curbs, especially inner ones - it pulls the car in, rear rotates and it spins. I also have huge understeer (the car struggles to turn in or make chicanes) and the car appears to not accelerate at the same rate Niels' does. It's weird..

I have an old low degree wheel, though, and i need to use low steering lock+low steering sensitivity.
Maybe my wheel characteristics just don't work with this car. I don't know.

 

its funny as ive been comparing this car to ISI F-ISI car at suzuka. To me the reiza one seems much more grippy and "can I say" easier to drive. With reizas one I can even take TRC off, with ISI one I need low TRC. But the reiza one still feels more stable and the most fun. You do get less WTF moments in this.