Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Mid mostly, but i’m struggling to find which is better for me ,mid or high . I might need a blender to find middle ground.

At default scales i’m not getting a heck of a lot of slip feel over 6.6.5.34. so need to experiment.
but overall it feels really good and cars feel easy to control.
@Karsten Hvidberg , The Dampening slide seems to make little difference no matter what end , but i guess it’s more to help DD oscillating, which wasn’t an issue i ever felt on my Thrusmaster.
with mid i’m finding a need for more gain than normal and Lfb seems to need to be stronger too.

 

Good point on the suspension. The king will need some meds to improve in that respect. I will post something tomorrow 8)

 

Mid, but it's not to be taken so literally, which ever file feels best on any wheel base for the user should be used.

 

Thanks Karsten

So far tested the Mid Level on my TS PC racer with Stock car at Spa (because everybody loves it right?) and Silverstone historic 1975(because its freaking bumpy track in this Game)

In Game settings 85/25/70/25/40

was not getting any road feel with FX at 50 and LFB at 50 was giving me too heavy wheel.

With Reiza default FFB, I go 0 for damping because if not the wheel is too sluggish on countersteer.
with your custom file, I have a feeling I need to add some level of damping still but happy to report the massive oscillations are gone

will do other cars today like GT3,open wheelers and GT1 to have a broader range available for my taste of cars to drive in AMS2.Maybe other TS PC racer owners will chime in to give some of their own testing results though.

Might test the High End file later on if time permits

thanks again, cant wait for the PC2 adaptation as well

stay safe!

 

I will add some more strength to the king and post tomorrow.

Reg. the damping you should feel some difference, but not so clearly. There is slightly less constraints on the speed of the steering at low end of the damping slider, but you are right that this slider is not really required for this file. A very good setting for everybody would be 50%, I think. The win is minimal by going lower and going higher does not really lose anything either, for the few that experience oscillations.

 

Hey nolive,

The damping is far less intrusive than the default's dampi g, so no issue in putting it at any place, really. It is dynamic and does not dampen very much normally. Default adds both damping and inertia to make the steering stick more, that's not done here.

Also no problem going lower on Lfb. Remember to balance Lfb and gain so you get the center as well as cornering as you like.

Fx prob. needs to go higher than 50 on most wheel bases. Fx 50 is what I use on the dd.

Best,

-K

 

thanks Sir, much appreciate the lightening feedback, you never sleep right

 

Joker,

Until the medics been to visit, you can change the variable "limit_high_df" to 0.0
It should give you back what you are missing.

But the revised version tomorrow will not require that change.

 

Karsten, Some additional feedback: I also have a rig with T500 and setup your mid file. In Formula cars I noticed a strong grainy feeling in the wheel while going fast that seems related to one of the FX. When I turn FX off it goes away, I haven't tried isolating what's causing it yet. Cheers

 

Could it be the scrub?
Just guessing since I'm adjusting it for the next rev.

 

ok after another hour of intense driving

I have now moved to the High End file and using following

In Game settings 85/15/70/0/40

It works fine with Stock cars, open wheelers like the Formula V12 but also the mighty fantastic AMG GT3 (and yes I am biased because I won a baby AMG one)

Feels more tire flex and overall car dynamics than with the Mid level file.

on the other end, I have to increase the Gain to 95 with GT1 cars because they are too back end snappy if I leave it at 85, too much of an handful to recover from oversteer while feeling the cars limit if not so I am not enjoying driving them if so.

good thing is that can really feel brake lock-up and wheel getting super light as a consequence. now having said that, need to work more on my "avoid brakes lock-up" skills but that might be the lack of load cell on my pedals I reckon (poor excuse I know)

again, if that helps some TS PC users but FFB is so subjective though

 

Have you tried lower gain and upping LFB, I would have thought that would give you more control and consistent feel.

 

I don't think it's scrub because its happening on the straights

 

Maybe engine effects if you have FX up higher

 

Yes i started from Gain 100 and Lfb 0

But i might tune further gain from current 85 and see if lfb above 15 in combination would be even better but i am happy as it is already

 

That’s kinda the opposite of the method suggested by Karsten?
Put the gain as low as you can while still feeling higher forces in fast turn, then fill the centre with Lfb.
Generally I would expect them to be much closer together and in my case gain is about half of lfb.

 

Its because French people never listen or follow rules

But its still early afternoon over here in Japan so i will give Karsten method a shot and report back in a moment

Thanks

 

ok tried the "Karsten" method and the closest I could get, but not quite there though, from the same feeling than earlier was with Gain at 65 and LFB at 75. FX unchanged from my previous run and damping made zero impact.

sorry not LFB twice as high as the Gain like in your settings, at say 35 Gain/70 LFB it had made the wheel quite light and increasing up to Gain50/LFB 100 was not matching my best feeling combination either

 

New file is great, though I have to raise fx a lot more to feel the rawness of previous versions.
I've also lost the wheel judder when the fronts start losing grip under braking. That was a great feeling and really added to the overall experience.
Changed various things in the file but can't seem to get it back.

 

I think Kuku likes the steering to be light, so it's part of the reason for having the low gain high Lfb combination. Also it gives him great feeling of difference of forces in the lower end of the forces.

Nolive, since your wheel base is stronger and I assume you don't want it as light as Kuku on cornering etc, you prob. should go back to what you liked and then make iterations from there as Kuku mentions:
1) Too high cornering force, lower gain slightly or vice versa.
2) Too soft center, raise the Lfb or vice versa.
* Worth noting is that the higher you go on the LFB slider, the more difference there will be in the low forces and the less difference there will be in the high forces, so that will begin playing in as well the higher you go.