Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I'm sure you know, but just in case: You can increase the top 3 master values in the file by the same % each & you will have the same feel, but just more volume overall, so if you run out of steam that's an option

 

First impression ?? WOW effect ... it's another planet ... I feel a marvel will come out ... everything is more open, identifiable, clear and variable ... for now I've only tried the V10 Gen 2 at SPA, I'm just starting out of the tuning, I only set my "tighten", I launched the game to be able to start tuning the Gain ... to hear it better the effect I lowered the LFB to 0 (which I will then raise it) ... this absurd value of LFB on a Logitech basis has up to now been unthinkable even and only for testing (usually 10-30) as the steering wheel would have been totally empty ... but now, even if incredulous , I can drive the car well ... the feeling on the steering wheel is much more gradual and variable as the car, speed and downforce vary ...

The wheels of car obviously still feel strange but it's normal ... I still have to adjust the LFB and all the other parameters ... in short, I know that tonight I will try very long and many things ... I can certainly say as always that you are great ... thanks KArsten & Company ...

 

Yeah I’ve had to make a couple of fairly significant, fundamental settings changes for this one, and a couple in the file itself - on a CSL Elite - but I think, I THINK... it just might be feeling better than ever now Thanks so much all involved.

 

Oh, also we forgot to add an important bullet:

* FX slider is now acting alone on adjusting road & effects. Adjusting gain will not change this. We hope this makes it more of a set & forget.

Updated the post with this now too.

 

It’s taking a lot of self discipline not to jump on and do some laps first thing on a Saturday morning

will try out later but sounds awesome.
So what your saying is basically gain will set peak torque and it’s probably best to set to optimum low load feel and use power steering to limit max torque.

 

It will depend on the LFB as well on the low end and the power-steering only adjusts based on angle toward road direction on tyre.
So:
The gain will set the high end possible, yes.
The lfb will adjust the center strength, as usual.
The damping(power-steering) will adjust the power steering torque provided based on angle towards road pull direction. So the power-steering is not limiting the overall torque, but provides help on cornering. We've tried 4-6 different power-steerings and this one stood out as providing the best feel while also allowing velocity vs df to stand out more clearly than strictly torque-based power-steering.

 

Tried the new file on a G25 (yes, I know ), but for the first time, it didn't work out of the box. Very flat, even when boosting settings in game to 100%, quite the opposite of what everyone else is experiencing (more detail). Earlier files always got more defined/stronger feeling, no matter if on Low, Mid or High version. Tried master_ values a little bit higher and messed with some values down below but I obviously don't know what I'm doing because in the end it just got heavier, but still without the definition that older file had. (88/75/50/50 or even 100/100/75/100 resulted on poor feeling).
So far, sticking with this one (https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings_v52_peter_g920-txt.13164/) and keep following the thread until something tuned for Logitechs comes around from the experts. The above file it's almost perfect for me, except that I don't get the "over crest light wheel feel". Other than that, it's a good compromise between handling and immersion.
Thanks to everyone involved. Keeping track of this thread for a long time now, and is amazing to see how much the settings have improved over the time.

 

Have been away for a few weeks, but I'm back now and cannot wait to try this one out

 

I experience very high centering forces when cornering and getting my foot on the throttle. RWD Camaro roadcar was fine, but I noticed it on AWD Lancer and even on the classic Mini Cooper FWD in which case I didn't expect to happen a lot when getting on throttle. Gain was at 40, then reduced to 30.

(I'm only starting to get into the whole driving experience again and trying to understand what's going on, so it could also be just me getting it wrong)

 

IMPORTANT BUG UPDATE TO "rFuktor 3" posted just now.

@Reiche this bug was hitting you, Mini is working after the fix).

Direct link to fixed file: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-silver-raw-rfuktor-3-txt.13212/

Also updated the links in the other posts to reflect this fix.

 

Interesting. I'm on CSL Elite+ and love it straight out of the box. Gain 75, LFB 20, FX 50, DAM 15. Wheel force 100, dri -02, FEI 80. Only tried it with Porsche GT3 911R at Brands (it rained), Donny, Oulton, Snetterton and Spa but lots of fun, feeling and detail. Really like this one! Thank you

 

ok I caved and had a quick go, it’s very good and flexible, can put sliders many different levels and still get good feedback.
I’m leaning towards having power steering about equal to gain. and still playing around with Lfb, though I may experiment with having tightening active in file with lower lfb later on.
Also will experiment with turning damper down in file as was running zero previous.
I think tuning will be limited to effects.
I think it must be the tear effect that’s giving me some strong harsh front tire vibrations if spinning and dragging fronts the wrong way on or off track.
Also it’s harsh tire scrub effects if FX above 25 , but feels like I could go higher than 25 to get best kerbs etc, so a little ratio scaling to tune amongst the effects as mentioned.

 

@Karsten Hvidberg That fixed it, also on the Lancer. Thank you!

 

If you like, use gain 65-70 lfb 35-40 fx 50 and at this moment damper to 0

After use tighten with yhis value ... 3 option then 3 test in game

Option 1:
(tighten_range 0.10) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
(tighten_falloff 0.005) #Use for lower end wheel bases.

Option 2:
(tighten_range 0.12) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
(tighten_falloff 0.006) #Use for lower end wheel bases.

Option 3:
(tighten_range 0.16) #Use for lower end wheel bases.
(tighten_falloff 0.0128) #Use for lower end wheel bases.

EDIT: Also range 0.21
EDIT 2: Set Damper to 50 or in the range 30-50!!!

 

Thanks for sharing! My initial run was with the same car, interestingly enough. On the 962C now though. I’ve ended up at 65 Gain (though my Porsche is set at 120%), 15 LFB, 50 FX, but 50 Damping. On wheel, I’ve got FF 100, Drift -3, FEI 40 (was running this at 70 until last week - setting it lower seemed to eradicate the occasional knocking feeling I’d get around the centre of the wheel). It’s getting closer and closer to perfect!

 

I'm testing the problem cars ....

KansaiGP ... GT1 fixed they drive beautifully and even at low gears I have full control ... I'm enjoying like a mandrill ...

GAIN 68 - LFB 38 FX 50 DP 0 (Damping not tested yet) ...

Go with Catheran and I will let you know ... but already without tuning the value it is great,

I suggest you do a few laps and wait for the melody to enter your head

 

Im surprised you all use such a low damping value, I run damping 50 and compensate with gain to make it as heavy as needed, low damping values to me make too much different steering angle forces

 

yes that’s basically where I set it for my quick test early on, 50 gain matched to 50 damper ( power steering) and then playing around with Lfb up to 50 and 25 Fx.

Edit: Now Running in file tightening which feels a little more accurate and responsive,
Using 60 - 5 - 15 - 50
Everything is drivable at this setting but for the big brutes I can reduce per car gain .

it’s actually possible with this file to run 100 gain but think it’s counter productive to subtle details. Having gain 10 more than damper gives a slightly better feel of some the unique fine details in this system.

 

Downloaded latest v 3 of new naming convention and immediate knew it was exceptionally good, on a belt drive tx, I have it set to 75 gain, 20 lfb and 50 fx, 0 dampener (have not tried that power steering aspect yet, remember last time it was not my cup of tea) but who knows: Because I do not think anything needs to be said at this point, only a few laps in on a v10 at 93 spa exceptional A+ job. (first v10 in left most v10 list, f-reiza, with the mp4/12 selectable :: that v10 gen 1, first in list)

Oh you can just tell this one is the goods and will be across all cars.

edit: I lifted lfb to 30. better, not that prior was bad or nothing but more in line with the rubber is on the road feel versus vague(er). This is def in the zone with high speed turning in the v10 gen1 at jerez and I expect it will carry over to gt3 and others. May experiment with fx at higher levels as per above post but just on this driving experience with a wheel base here, I am at a level of immersion as such just focusing on the road/driving. Ah stuff it - will try 70 evenif I suspect it may unseat/upset this balance being a belt.

Until now I also noted the bars 0-10% 10-20% etc are neatly in line, so 10% is low as you expect then next bar is higher, and next, and no red... its very nice and consistent.

Edit 2: Oh no - well maybe a csl elite will do such a thing, but the fx - which is essentially one step down from an elite but rather the same - driving with 70 fx makes it seem like gravel is across the road, very coarse and not at all how tarmac should feel (maybe a go kart would feel like that with "fx" as I would imagine may be at 60, so back to 50 fx it is)

edit: this all told is still very good - I agree the best yet; slippage is good, traction is good, the steering is linear and you can even adjust all that, any vibration is either the engine or the rack itself because in game its meant to be a metal object so its a decent feel versus it and the track, can really get a sense of definition and spatial awareness, a good dynamic range and it never gets blown out or muddy it would seem.

 

Did more laps last night, this time in Porsche Cup 3.8 at Interlagos.

I absolutely love the new file. For the first time in AMS2 this car felt really great to me. I need to do some tuning based on what I’ve read in this thread recently, but it feels pretty great already.

What is staggering is how much more alive this feels compared to the default. I would love to see this flavour of ffb incorporated into the game as a menu option.