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Wet tires can still be pretty grippy in some situations. Again, it's an ongoing process, for that many cars, to make it more and more reasonable. JBs perception might be not that far off, when he thinks, the car should be more loose on a soaking wet track on wet tires.

Regarding slicks in the wet, they shouldn't be effective anymore, when the track is wet. (Discussable, if useless enough or not, of course)
There was a past in AMS2, when slicks actually were still more effective in stormy weather, than full wets, but this should be solved now.

 

Anyone can just chuck the car left and right like that.. As a proper test that is more meaningful why don't you drive somewhat normal lines whilst being super aggressive and see what happens..

I am more interested when you pinned the throttle in Bruxelles and mounted the kerb..

What happens in Pouhon or Blanchimont..?

I'd do it myself but I am watching F1 testing..

 

ok good to know, ill give it a crack later.. Grip scenarios I've been looking at are only for the dry..

 

I don't have a current driving licence so what are you saying..?

 

They are, don't worry

Feedback is still important of course, but they aren't cluelessly changing driving dynamics, just because of it. It has to be a reasonably proven thing to be wrong, like the front aero stalling/lifting of the Gr.C cars, for example. (Or the LSD works like a Spool thing, we had)

Discussing, how something should or should not behave is also not wrong. Also simulation experience gives certain advantages, but people often like to forget, that the own preferences on a simulation experience aren't always matching the approach to perceived reality, that another foundation gives them and it's okay. (I'm for example praising AMS1 for it's natural feel in many situations, but it's some kind of also fooling myself sometimes)

I agree...also in this point, things have improved in the recent builds actually. Best example for me is the 911 GT1-98, that was horrible through the hairpins at Donington and now tends to be pretty nice in comparison.

Do you have any information, what makes you believe, it's the engine? (honestly asked)

 

I don't know, if it really is traceable down to actual code of the physics and not mainly utilization and better understanding of the system itself. Physics engines are something, done by knowledgeable people, smarter than we all together here, discussing it.

Certainly, there will be things, that might work worse, than other things, that excel, but attention was payed for sure to deliver certain possibilites, to make more complex connected problems solvable (IMO, the tire damping was such a case, for example).

The task might be more for the right people, to understand these things better and better and how to use them properly. (Was often the case in the past, with several quirks and oddities, that didn't show the culprit right from the beginning)

 

Since you guys are testing this combo i'll give it a crack..

It was not as wild for me, fairly manageable and I even drove some dry line, rubbed some kerbs and touched the brakes when I probably shouldn't have. Dry setup, slick tyres, less rear wing, more front wing compared to what was shown earlier and I didn't even change the brake balance. No real wild moments or spins.. Most of the time it felt like I was kinda on a wet tyre and not a slick and it was very manageable. If this was a race I would drive more sensible and there would be no problems at all. Maybe in 10 laps when the water built up more it won't be as under control.

When I talk about grip in AMS2 I am mainly talking about the rear end. Like I previously mentioned this is the first time doing this test so I never really had an opinion about this one. I also tested pinning the throttle, yeah it breaks traction easy and then you get a little side step and a wiggle then it all hooks up and off you go. No dramas mate..

I'll leave it to the experts to decide.. Apparently mine and others racing cv doesn't cut it to have an opinion around here. Not that I have ever really mentioned what I have driven. I think once I did mention I tested a EB Touring car a few times at Calder and Phillip Island.. Still nothing compares to driving in the Philippines.

add: This was me deliberately being a lot more aggressive with the throttle to break traction and putting on some extra steering angle (1st lap)..