Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Staying on the subject of FFB, I understand what you want to tell me and/or research, but I think you would never have the feeling of what it could be ... as you well know the FFB is only the output of physics, I think the problems there are many, from the model of the tires, to the suspensions, the differentials, the steering ratio, the chassis, etc. etc. .... even the tires do not heat up as they should, many items of the auto settings are blocked and cannot be changed, there are even graphic problems when going into the pits, infinite tremors, etc etc. .... searching for what you say in these conditions I think it is an exercise in style that does not bring that, even if it were to give you an idea, it would certainly be distorted ... :(
    If the FFB of a working car already changes from day to night in the course of an update ... just imagine how different it could be on the Kart when they were to be fixed ... but here we must not do an update but rather a total overhaul!!!!!! ;)
     
  2. TekNeil

    TekNeil Take me back to the 2.4l, twin 50 weber days...

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    Yeah, I'm just looking to take away some of the horrendous rattling/vibration at the moment (I will try the latest files:cool:), I can manage to drive around the many other issues for now. :)
     
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  3. bart1969

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    IS THE FıLE NAMED FFB_CUSTOM_SETTıNGS.txt SLOWİNG DOWN CARS ONLY FOR ME?
    The system I use is simucube ows DD1. Could you please test it yourself and explain to me the reason for the car slowdown?
    1. First of all, select the track named "gionia external" from the "time trial" menu. (Because it's an oval track; it's not affected by your driving style.You'll see how slow the car stays even on the first try.)
    2. Choose any car (I chose the dllara f309. Is a stable and smooth car).
    3. Choose the fastest ghost car as your rival. (you will compare your speed with it.)
    No need to hold the 4th test too long. your car starts behind the starting line anyway.
    5. The race is started by selecting "default" from the ffb setup menu. (to see the actual speed of the car).
    6. race is started. After you pass the starting line, you will see that you are not very close to the ghost car and you are going close to it. (If you want, you can continue the race by completing the tour.You decide this)
    7. row, it's the order of selecting "custom" setting from ffb settings and activating ffb_custom_settings.txt.
    8. Race with the ghost car in the same way again.
    CONCLUSION: I've tested it many times. The file namedffb_custom_settings definitely slows down cars.
    What is the parameter affecting automobile physics?
     
  4. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Maybe you were wrong to quote me o_O ... my file is identical to the original file, no codebase changes have been modified, it is only tuned in the value for use on a Logitech or Lowend basis (not for DD and Highend whell) ... you have a Direct Drive and therefore the file from which to start should be Karsten's original one and if you need to later adapt it to your characteristics and tastes (not mine which is not suitable for DD steering wheels and you don't have to use it) ... regardless, I don't notice any slowdowns between the use of the default and the custom and if there were any I don't think it depends on Karsten's file ... indeed if you really want to know it since the game was updated to the latest version 1.1.3.5 in the straights I reach higher top speeds with many cars compared to previous versions ... here on G920 everything is ok!!!

    Maybe Karsten or whoever compiles the file can answer you ...

    EDIT: TO BE SURE, I REPLICATED THE TEST MADE BY YOU IN THE OVAL ... WITH SETTING DEFAULT AND CHANGING THE FFB PRESET FROM DEFAULT TO CUSTOM ... SAME RESULT BOTH AS ACCELERATION AND TOP SPEED ;)
     
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  5. JoKeR

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    Interesting, I always thought that it was only me observing this, but maybe this has something to do with always-more-complex extra calculations done by the custom files?
    EDIT: anyway, no way I go back to default, lol. :D
     
  6. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Just for interest, are there others who perceive or have evidence that using a custom file (complex or even a simple one, who knows) affects the physics of the game (with slowdowns or any other observations)?

    And if there is, please list system specs if not in your signature. It will be important to isolate if there is any commonality with hardware.
     
  7. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Marc Collins ... I don't know if it can be useful, but in the SuperKart, which are broken with the brake damage at the start, if I switch from Custom to Default the damage is no longer to the right rear brake but to the right front one ... now I don't know if the anomaly is the custom file or the game ... you can see it from the photos in my post published just above ... o_O
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Another thing, I don't know before, but after updating to version 1.1.3.5 and after the reset, I changed the graphics settings (for example anisotropic from 4x to 8x) and changed the effects on the steering wheel with custom ffb setting ... . i changed back from 8x to 16x and the ffb effect is back as before ... o_O
     
  9. Gazzawesty

    Gazzawesty Skunkedup AMS2 Club Member

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    You know this slowing down phenomenon... I think there is something to it. Now I'm not quick by any stretch but sometimes I can run quite quickly but I changed to your new file this evening Stakanov and was 4 to 5 seconds off the pace running round at the back. I dunno... Maybe I was just crap tonight.. I'm gonna switch back to your precious file and try again tomorrow.
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    TO BE SURE, I REPLICATED THE TEST IN THE OVAL ... WITH SETTING DEFAULT AND CHANGING THE FFB PRESET FROM DEFAULT TO CUSTOM ... SAME RESULT BOTH AS ACCELERATION AND TOP SPEED ... NOT PROBLEM WITH FILE ...
     
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    Gazzawesty Skunkedup AMS2 Club Member

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    Wow.. Cool man. Sorry for the feedback.
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Try it too, it takes 2 minutes to verify it ... better 2 confirmations than one ;)

    Edit: Sorry for CAPS is involuntary :(
     
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  13. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes, please, as many people as possible test this and see if there are any patterns as to who/what/why.
     
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    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I just tried this using my older custom FFB file (not yours) and the brake problem remains at the back.

    Very odd...as obviously as FFB script file of any description should not be affecting this. Can you confirm if it does the same thing on the other karts? I haven't documented the pattern, but several karts have the weird brake temp that is about -2 billion degrees. It usually shows red (overheated) at launch, but then if you do go into pits to get repairs, it will revert to stone cold blue (as you would expect when it is beyond frozen and should take a few weeks to warm up to ambient temps!!).

    Of course we also need to know if this is unique to your modifications of if Karsten's files do this generally.
     
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  15. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes in the old files of Karsten there were no special settings on the karts ... it's not my modification, they have only recently been inserted ... if you take last Karsten's original it's the same and do the test you should replicate it ... i not modification this part ;)
     
  16. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    In my opinion it is the game but it is obvious that you need to investigate ;) ... if you notice anomalies, also try to change the graphics settings and redo the tests .... for example once you change the asinotropic and try ... another time change a few medium to high voices (and vice versa) and you do it again ... if that happens we have some clue that might be game related
     
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    Gazzawesty Skunkedup AMS2 Club Member

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    So.. Just done 5 laps time trial on Jac oval in my fave McGT3. First with the file I tried earlier and was 1.65 off top. Closed game.. Put in your previous file and am now 1.26 off top. It could just be I was better on my second go but I beat the first go on the first lap.

    I'll try Donnington
     
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    Gazzawesty Skunkedup AMS2 Club Member

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    I can't be messing with graphics man... I run a 580 in VR... It works well I ain't touching it
     
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  19. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Whatch only the max velocity ... it's normal drive differently ... and what is "my previous file" ... the comparison you have to do between the default and the last custom ... ;)
     
  20. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    OK, I just tried the latest EasterFuktor file and it did not affect the SuperKart brakes.

    I am now going to go try it for what it is--too see how I like the FFB, but I guess you need to confirm if the standard file causes the issue on your end...
     

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