Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I confirm, the sensations of the MuscleFuktor Update, after the last update, have lost information especially on the wheels/tire side ... I loaded the 4.4 the tires came back ... moreover, as Kuku found in 4.4, with a relaxation center equal to 0 and turned spring strength down the situation improves still considerably ...
So I compared the original files of KArsten (MuscleFactor Update and 4.4) and I wondered how to mix the last one with the features of 4.4 ... I found that the lateral forces on the tires and the smooth between the two file's were different ... so why not mix them in order to have the last file with some 4.4 characteristics and recover the feeling of the rubber in MuscleFactor???
I have generated this hybrid which is a MuscleFuktor Update (with the fix on the redundancy of values) to which I have inserted by replacing some lines of 4.4 ... they are still work in progress but I think I have succeeded only that the relaxation center at 0 perhaps does not go well and therefore needs a live amunto for now at 0.05 ...
I did some tests and it seems to work with values a little different from the previous one:
Gain 90 (to be increased or decreased as desired)
LFB 80
FX 64
DP 45 (tends to be lower than the previous one at 55 and perhaps it can still be lowered)

EDIT: Now use this value 80-80-60-0 or 80-100-60-0 (wip)

Now it is late here I will deepen tomorrow ...... in the meantime try it and if you have any information do not hesitate to criticize or confirm!!!

Test on Logitech based ... Name file: Mix MuscleFuktor(Update)+4.4

 

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Hello


I have a TS PC and did test a T300 and at least in my eyes and hands the TS PC was transferring more FFB details
And I thought TM used the T500 to design the TS PC Soni am surprised with users thinking otherwise about sensitivity

but I never tried a T500 so I might be wrong

 

Thanks for the FFB update Kuku. I adjusted for my T300 and am liking it. I also used this YouTube video to learn how things are done.

I hope YouTube links are safe to use.

 

Use the instructions in the post rather than YT celebrities, unfortunately most of them dont know that Damping slider is reversed for this custom file, it acts as powersteering, reducing top end resistance gradually. Its a pretty important change.

FX is separate from gain, so adjust that separately.

 

The T500 has a brushed motor vs the brushless motor of the ts-pc for start along with improved mechanics.

The t300/tx also uses brushless but it’s less powerful at just under 4nm compared to the 6nm of ts-pc .

I’ve never tried a ts-pc , but all reviews say it’s even better at finer details while feeling more solid at same time.
If they where to drop the price for a ts-pc base in reaction to new products coming into market, I would consider upgrading , but can’t justify it currently.

 

The fanatec did csl is a TS PC killer so TM would have to do a move for sure here

but I don’t feel the need to upgrade

 

Which file do you guys recommend for my CSW V2.5 wheel? I see so many files, I really don’t know which one I should pick..

 

My wheel is similar to yours and I find Karsten’s Musclefaktor file to be pretty great. Maybe kerb scale needs to be less, and scrub a bit more.. but that’s personal taste really. If you aren’t comfortable with editing those effects, I’ll upload my file later when I’m at the PC.

 

Thanks. Editing those files is not a very big deal but it would be nice if you can upload the file.

 

Here is my CSL Elite tune of Karsten's MuscleFaktor file. It's pretty close to the original, with a few of the main variables tweaked to my preference.

It's possibly worth pointing out that I use a Buttkicker, so I get effects via that route too. If this file doesn't work for you, it might be worth trying Karsten's original file MuscleFaktor to see if you prefer that one.

In Game settings are: 60 / 40 / 50 / 50. Remember, with these custom files, the in-game damper setting acts as power steering (higher damper value = more power steering assist).

On wheel settings are:
Sen = Aut
FF = 100
dri = -02
FEI = 80
For = 100
Spr = 100
dPr = 100
bli = off
SHo = 100

I'm not fully up to speed with Fanatec drivers, but I think I'm right in saying there have been issues with some recent beta drivers. I'm using Driver 381, wheelbase fw 680, Motor fw 22.

 

thanks, will put it to the test any time soon.

FEI I usually set it much lower. 20-30 otherwise I find it way to present.

 

Yeah, I’ve heard other people say similar. I guess it just goes to show the subjective nature of ffb.

 

Just tested it and it does feel nice. Not too heavy just a nice setting. Thanks..

 

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I have seen your video last night,thanks

 

@Fizzy

CSW V2.5, works great!.. thanks

Can you help me with 3 things?

1) What do you have to tweak in the file to have more FFB strength? I remember that with the PC2 file where a way but can't remember or find it.
2) When I race at the track, I usually feel kerbs on the steering wheel... how can I make that effect stronger?
3) I can't feel very well when I start to lose the tail..

For me, those 3 points are what's needed to get to the heaven of FFB... Thanks for your file mate!

 

You forgot to modify the following line;
(F_scrub (+ (* 0.15 (sin (* 1.9 F_scrubP))) (* 0.1 (sin (* 2.23 R_scrubP))) (* 0.4 F_curve1_now)))
That R has to be changed to an F.

 

Hey guys, thanks again for your hard work, this is my take on Mix MuscleFuktor(Update)+4.4 for T300Rs. It is a mix of Peter values, a couple from Stakanov and a couple of mine.
I've been driving a lot the Porsche GTE recently and only now I can say the car is very easy to catch when sliding with this ffb file. Until now the car felt like it had a point when going into a slide from which I could not recover the car, strange compared to the other GTEs. Also I can match easily my fastest times with this car and I am also able to be within a few tenths between the laps, a joy to drive now.

 

Thanks, will adapt it as soon as I have the time to race again.

 

Hi Rolo,

1) In-game gain is the easiest way to increase overall strength. If you just want more peak cornering forces try lowering damper in-game.
2) This line:
(kerbs_surface_scale 2.3)
Karsten's original file is set to 3.0, so maybe try something like that.
3) Not sure about that... maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can help with that.

@Michael Enright: Thanks for the heads up on the scrub typo. Fixed now.

To anyone that downloaded and is using the previous file I uploaded, please note, there was a small bug that Michael pointed out. I have now fixed it. File attached.

 

is this damper of setting also for "power steering"?