Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Youve got zero need to apologise from where Im sitting Stakanov. Dont let it get to you.

 

Damn you have some strange individuals running around on this planet (refering to RRR), and I'm not exactly normal neither.

 

Hi Team

Have had a blast experimenting with a couple of things and found some extra goodness since scrub fix.

I have made a couple of unusual changes that I feel add to the feel by taking things away.

Still using 4.4 as base with blended center full.

I have reduced centre relax to 0,
I feel its not needed with this file/wheel and keeps it fast and informative. I was getting some minor delayed signals before that seemed to come in out of step.

I have also dug a little deeper into file and turned spring strength down .
I think it feels more natural and well.. less rubber band resistance like. ( users can add it back in steps if its what the are use too ), but I think these belts have natural spring in them.

I settled on running virtually no power steering and just containing max forces within gain and finding great loading feel and great tire feel with all sorts of cars, but users can play around with it.

As usual my settings and instructions are in file and link will be in my signature.
This can be loaded into front page karsten , I dont think I can improve from here.

 

Great,
I also have some other good files to add in to the next zip file.
Hoping to do it tomorrow.

 

Hopefully the latest patch hasn’t moved the goal post again, but I’m pretty sure it downloaded in between test sessions.

 

ok just tried with t500rs in game setting 80 50 75 0 feels very good thks again

 

I use t300rs in game setting 60 60 40 0 feels very good

 

Been awhile since I've had time to play so I've reset everything in the game after update and
been digging in to the latest files. Currently testing McLaren F1 GTR on Bathurst as my
main test car/track. What a fun combo!

The muscle fuktor version feels like it's getting thrown off by the dramatic elevation changes
and uneven track surface of Bathurst, tried reducing road effects, bumps,
suspension etc but still feels like I'm fighting the wheel.

Kuku I really like your latest file, even though it's designed with the T300 in mind it works well
for me on Simucube2. Easy to control slides. Sometimes less is more

For giggles I tried the latest Reiza default to see how their version is coming along,
huge difference and clearly Karsten has worked some magic. Thanks all for your contributions!

 

Hey Kuku...
So your ingame settings with this file are 100% Gain and 0% Damper, right?
What did you set in for LFB anf FX on your side?
I alo run a T300RS GT

Best regards,
Manuel

 

Not quite, My settings are described in file header. they may differ from what suits all and are just a guide. But it’s very easy to find your preference.
everyone has different tastes and different wheels, I have the leather edition add on wheel which is much lighter than stock RS , and also have ball bearing belt guides instead of stock plastic, so generally have slightly less friction and more sensitive transmission of FX .

it also doesn’t surprise me that T500 users like @Richard appleyard have much higher values for FX as traditionally they have shown to have lower sensitivity than T300 based on user comments over time , even though they have more power overall.

 

I confirm, the sensations of the MuscleFuktor Update, after the last update, have lost information especially on the wheels/tire side ... I loaded the 4.4 the tires came back ... moreover, as Kuku found in 4.4, with a relaxation center equal to 0 and turned spring strength down the situation improves still considerably ...
So I compared the original files of KArsten (MuscleFactor Update and 4.4) and I wondered how to mix the last one with the features of 4.4 ... I found that the lateral forces on the tires and the smooth between the two file's were different ... so why not mix them in order to have the last file with some 4.4 characteristics and recover the feeling of the rubber in MuscleFactor???
I have generated this hybrid which is a MuscleFuktor Update (with the fix on the redundancy of values) to which I have inserted by replacing some lines of 4.4 ... they are still work in progress but I think I have succeeded only that the relaxation center at 0 perhaps does not go well and therefore needs a live amunto for now at 0.05 ...
I did some tests and it seems to work with values a little different from the previous one:
Gain 90 (to be increased or decreased as desired)
LFB 80
FX 64
DP 45 (tends to be lower than the previous one at 55 and perhaps it can still be lowered)

EDIT: Now use this value 80-80-60-0 or 80-100-60-0 (wip)

Now it is late here I will deepen tomorrow ...... in the meantime try it and if you have any information do not hesitate to criticize or confirm!!!

Test on Logitech based ... Name file: Mix MuscleFuktor(Update)+4.4

 

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Hello


I have a TS PC and did test a T300 and at least in my eyes and hands the TS PC was transferring more FFB details
And I thought TM used the T500 to design the TS PC Soni am surprised with users thinking otherwise about sensitivity

but I never tried a T500 so I might be wrong

 

Thanks for the FFB update Kuku. I adjusted for my T300 and am liking it. I also used this YouTube video to learn how things are done.

I hope YouTube links are safe to use.

 

Use the instructions in the post rather than YT celebrities, unfortunately most of them dont know that Damping slider is reversed for this custom file, it acts as powersteering, reducing top end resistance gradually. Its a pretty important change.

FX is separate from gain, so adjust that separately.

 

The T500 has a brushed motor vs the brushless motor of the ts-pc for start along with improved mechanics.

The t300/tx also uses brushless but it’s less powerful at just under 4nm compared to the 6nm of ts-pc .

I’ve never tried a ts-pc , but all reviews say it’s even better at finer details while feeling more solid at same time.
If they where to drop the price for a ts-pc base in reaction to new products coming into market, I would consider upgrading , but can’t justify it currently.

 

The fanatec did csl is a TS PC killer so TM would have to do a move for sure here

but I don’t feel the need to upgrade

 

Which file do you guys recommend for my CSW V2.5 wheel? I see so many files, I really don’t know which one I should pick..

 

My wheel is similar to yours and I find Karsten’s Musclefaktor file to be pretty great. Maybe kerb scale needs to be less, and scrub a bit more.. but that’s personal taste really. If you aren’t comfortable with editing those effects, I’ll upload my file later when I’m at the PC.

 

Thanks. Editing those files is not a very big deal but it would be nice if you can upload the file.

 

Here is my CSL Elite tune of Karsten's MuscleFaktor file. It's pretty close to the original, with a few of the main variables tweaked to my preference.

It's possibly worth pointing out that I use a Buttkicker, so I get effects via that route too. If this file doesn't work for you, it might be worth trying Karsten's original file MuscleFaktor to see if you prefer that one.

In Game settings are: 60 / 40 / 50 / 50. Remember, with these custom files, the in-game damper setting acts as power steering (higher damper value = more power steering assist).

On wheel settings are:
Sen = Aut
FF = 100
dri = -02
FEI = 80
For = 100
Spr = 100
dPr = 100
bli = off
SHo = 100

I'm not fully up to speed with Fanatec drivers, but I think I'm right in saying there have been issues with some recent beta drivers. I'm using Driver 381, wheelbase fw 680, Motor fw 22.