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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Nolive721

    Nolive721 Active Member

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    Hello


    I have a TS PC and did test a T300 and at least in my eyes and hands the TS PC was transferring more FFB details
    And I thought TM used the T500 to design the TS PC Soni am surprised with users thinking otherwise about sensitivity

    but I never tried a T500 so I might be wrong
     
  2. Richard Busch

    Richard Busch New Member

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    Thanks for the FFB update Kuku. I adjusted for my T300 and am liking it. I also used this YouTube video to learn how things are done.


    I hope YouTube links are safe to use.
     
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  3. Shadak

    Shadak Active Member

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    Use the instructions in the post rather than YT celebrities, unfortunately most of them dont know that Damping slider is reversed for this custom file, it acts as powersteering, reducing top end resistance gradually. Its a pretty important change.

    FX is separate from gain, so adjust that separately.
     
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  4. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    The T500 has a brushed motor vs the brushless motor of the ts-pc for start along with improved mechanics.

    The t300/tx also uses brushless but it’s less powerful at just under 4nm compared to the 6nm of ts-pc .

    I’ve never tried a ts-pc , but all reviews say it’s even better at finer details while feeling more solid at same time.
    If they where to drop the price for a ts-pc base in reaction to new products coming into market, I would consider upgrading , but can’t justify it currently.
     
  5. Nolive721

    Nolive721 Active Member

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    The fanatec did csl is a TS PC killer so TM would have to do a move for sure here

    but I don’t feel the need to upgrade
     
  6. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark Later has long since begun. AMS2 Club Member

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    Which file do you guys recommend for my CSW V2.5 wheel? I see so many files, I really don’t know which one I should pick..
     
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  7. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    My wheel is similar to yours and I find Karsten’s Musclefaktor file to be pretty great. Maybe kerb scale needs to be less, and scrub a bit more.. but that’s personal taste really. If you aren’t comfortable with editing those effects, I’ll upload my file later when I’m at the PC.
     
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  8. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark Later has long since begun. AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks. Editing those files is not a very big deal but it would be nice if you can upload the file. :D
     
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  9. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Here is my CSL Elite tune of Karsten's MuscleFaktor file. It's pretty close to the original, with a few of the main variables tweaked to my preference.

    It's possibly worth pointing out that I use a Buttkicker, so I get effects via that route too. If this file doesn't work for you, it might be worth trying Karsten's original file MuscleFaktor to see if you prefer that one.

    In Game settings are: 60 / 40 / 50 / 50. Remember, with these custom files, the in-game damper setting acts as power steering (higher damper value = more power steering assist).

    On wheel settings are:
    Sen = Aut
    FF = 100
    dri = -02
    FEI = 80
    For = 100
    Spr = 100
    dPr = 100
    bli = off
    SHo = 100

    I'm not fully up to speed with Fanatec drivers, but I think I'm right in saying there have been issues with some recent beta drivers. I'm using Driver 381, wheelbase fw 680, Motor fw 22.
     

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  10. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark Later has long since begun. AMS2 Club Member

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    thanks, will put it to the test any time soon.:D

    FEI I usually set it much lower. 20-30 otherwise I find it way to present.
     
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  11. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah, I’ve heard other people say similar. I guess it just goes to show the subjective nature of ffb.
     
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  12. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark Later has long since begun. AMS2 Club Member

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    Just tested it and it does feel nice. Not too heavy just a nice setting. Thanks..:D
     
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  13. TonyPan

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    I have seen your video last night,thanks
     
  14. RoloFuentes

    RoloFuentes Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Fizzy

    CSW V2.5, works great!.. thanks

    Can you help me with 3 things?

    1) What do you have to tweak in the file to have more FFB strength? I remember that with the PC2 file where a way but can't remember or find it.
    2) When I race at the track, I usually feel kerbs on the steering wheel... how can I make that effect stronger?
    3) I can't feel very well when I start to lose the tail..

    For me, those 3 points are what's needed to get to the heaven of FFB... Thanks for your file mate!
     
  15. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You forgot to modify the following line;
    (F_scrub (+ (* 0.15 (sin (* 1.9 F_scrubP))) (* 0.1 (sin (* 2.23 R_scrubP))) (* 0.4 F_curve1_now)))
    That R has to be changed to an F.
     
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  16. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey guys, thanks again for your hard work, this is my take on Mix MuscleFuktor(Update)+4.4 for T300Rs. It is a mix of Peter values, a couple from Stakanov and a couple of mine.
    I've been driving a lot the Porsche GTE recently and only now I can say the car is very easy to catch when sliding with this ffb file. Until now the car felt like it had a point when going into a slide from which I could not recover the car, strange compared to the other GTEs. Also I can match easily my fastest times with this car and I am also able to be within a few tenths between the laps, a joy to drive now.
     

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  17. Bull Shark

    Bull Shark Later has long since begun. AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks, will adapt it as soon as I have the time to race again. :D
     
  18. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Rolo,

    1) In-game gain is the easiest way to increase overall strength. If you just want more peak cornering forces try lowering damper in-game.
    2) This line:
    (kerbs_surface_scale 2.3)
    Karsten's original file is set to 3.0, so maybe try something like that.
    3) Not sure about that... maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can help with that.

    @Michael Enright: Thanks for the heads up on the scrub typo. Fixed now.

    To anyone that downloaded and is using the previous file I uploaded, please note, there was a small bug that Michael pointed out. I have now fixed it. File attached.
     

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  19. TonyPan

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    is this damper of setting also for "power steering"?
     
  20. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It should be like in the original file, if I did not mess something up. I do not use power steering at all.
     

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