Automobilista 2 V1.2.0.0 & Racin´ USA Pt1 RELEASED - Now Updated to V1.2.1.4

Yeah, I find diff settings a bit confusing, to try and get rwd cars with some stability I am finding I have to do different things to different cars to get the same result.i would imagine there are a large number of other setup variables to consider as well that I assume play a part here..

 

Sorry It is not my video, as I’m using VR I’m not even sure if it applicable on VR yet

 

If you know what you are doing then yes, lol.

 

"Safer" set-ups will allow you to stay on the track longer and make fewer mistakes...a prerequisite to winning a race even before you achieve competitive speed

In terms of diff, a less locked diff (or even an open/non-LSD one) will be safer and easier to manage. When the diff is more heavily locked, it is easy to spin the car. When the diff is too loose, the worst thing that happens is you are a bit slower due to the inside drive tire spinning (tire fire we sometimes call it because it can overheat the spinning tire) and you are not putting all the available power down coming out of a corner. This is by far the lesser of the evils for someone who is not yet a throttle management expert. And the more powerful the car, the more critical this distinction becomes.

One (the usual) way to learn throttle management is by driving a lower class car (like the Chevette in the Copa Classics) with an open throttle and not much power. Even still, you will easily be able to induce tire fire coming out of corners (if you have Fanatec pedals, you will feel the vibration from the spinning drive tire). What happens to the stability of the car? Almost nothing. You're just a bit slower than you could be. When you learn to squeeze the throttle just right, you will maximize the speed of this car.

That technique is 100% transferable when you jump into a much more powerful car with a strong diff (e.g., the SuperV8). There, you MUST use the throttle management technique just to keep the car pointed in the right direction and perfect it to be fast.

None of this requires looking at a set-up. Most race cars we would ever get to drive have a set-up and you live with it. But if you can even half master throttle management, then when you do go into set-ups or play with ones from @steelreserv, you'll be in a good position to determine what aspects of handling balance the diff is affecting versus the suspension components.

Don't be afraid of set-ups, but also no point in fiddling with them until you have some depth of experience to be able to determine what is actually changing for the better or the worse.

The beauty of @steelreserv's work is that we have a curated set-up to try that is an alternate to the default. It may or may not be an advantage to us depending on our driving style, but a fun activity is to listen to a set-up video explanation of what has changed and why, and then go try it on the track. See if we can "feel" the same differences in the two set-ups, and therefore get a sense of whether @steelreserv's personal approach works for us. If it does, we now have a bunch of great set-ups to use. If not, or to a lesser degree, we now learned what changes might be appealing or less appealing for us.

This is the "beauty" being referred to (if I may speak for my bud @steelreserv!).

 

So with the diff setting the coast and power ramp angles are more locked at lower settings and the more preload locks it as well? More clutches also lock it further?

 

If we're still talking Reshade effects, alas... Available for OpenVR, cannot get it to work with the Rift S.
I would give my right arm to have some basic controls in either the Oculus settings or the game.
Just a saturation slider and some rudimentary gamma settings, maybe color temperature...
Man, those 2d guys have it easy!

 

Personally Im pretty hesitant to conclude too much from RL setting up a car and then how to setup a virtual car.
No virtual car have any tires and springs or differential for that matter.
A virtual car owe only its physical behaviour on our PC screens to some algoritms inside the game we call a racing sim.
But because a racing sim is only a sim(plification) of RL physics then any 1:1 conclusion taken from RL car setup has a lot af chance to be false or at best partly false.
Because as any sim(plification) then a racing sim is lacking a lot of the things needed to be close to the complexity of RL.

 

You are incorrect. As simulations become more accurate, they simulate actual working parts and their interactions. The goal being that real life and sim approach 1:1.

Madness is not on the level of rF Pro used by F1 teams, but it does simulate individual parts of the vehicle and their interactions. Reiza is using real life as the starting point to hone their sim...not another sim. This is why it takes longer, but the end result will be superior. They could have thrown in plausible-feeling estimates of things and been all done six or more months ago...and fooled 99% of people with the result.

And sim is short for simulation, not simplification. The two are related, but simplification is not the driver of a good quality simulation. Simplification is used after doing it the best way either fails or is not feasible due to lack of data or too much complexity with little commensurate value. I'm glad you're not in charge of AMS 2 development!

 

Semantics for this discussion. It is the equivalent of a 100% locked LSD, which is all a set-up novice needs to understand. 99% of race cars have a diff (or more than one), but yes, the SuperV8 is a special case where they use technology purposely designed to make the car more challenging to drive.

 

You are incorrect - says the man who has just shown that he dont really understand what the map–territory falacy is about.

Because just because a socalled sim is trying to "simulate individual parts () and their interactions" doesnt mean that the simulated model will ever have a chance of comming even near an 1:1 existence of the reality it does pretend to describe.

But I have also to admit that against a person openly expressing such a kind of believe that a virtual model of something in RL can ever be what it does try to describe - then there is no reason to try to use arguments.

Instead I will just link to a quotation of an analogous/similiar falacy:
The falacy of mistaking the map for the territory.

In short: confuse models of reality with reality itself.
Map–territory relation - Wikipedia

ByTheWay: Even rF Pro is just a sim(plification) of something that is way more complex in reality (RL) than what this socalled "sim" can sim(ulate) in its simplified virtual "reality".

 

Soooo... In short; it's that time of the month.
People pick a fight where there isn't one, this and that, everybody wishes it was next weekend, to get their hands on that sweet sweet classic RSR among other things.
It really is like clockwork this!