Random starting Fuel in fixed setup

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  1. Racing Bears TV

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    Dear all, my name is Fabio Henrique and I'm the administrator of the Racing Bears CUP, a sim racing league that is already for one year promoting championships in the Automobilista 2. We are now in the 8th season and looking to have more, specially because one year ago we had only 10 drivers in a single grid and now we handle 2 grids with 25 drivers each and with a long waiting list for the next season.
    Nowadays we run these two grids with Copa Montana in a fixed setup rules using dedicated servers. However, yesterday was the first race of the 8th season in Imola for a 40 minutes stint and the following problem happened.

    Some drivers started the race with 50.8 liters of fuel and others with 101 liters, which ended up harming some those with less fuel in the tank.

    My question is, once is a fixed setup shouldn't fuel be standard for everyone?

    These harmed drivers have invested a lot of time and money to participate in our and other championships. With this new bug and others already known to you, th pilots are getting discouraged and unfirtunately they are tending to move towards to other simulators.

    What the Reiza says about it, so I can share wih the drivers and crews, to calm them down and generate somes kind on hope.

    Thank you in advance. teste 1.png teste2.png
     
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  2. Rafael Henrique Cordeiro

    Rafael Henrique Cordeiro New Member

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  3. Iuri Soares

    Iuri Soares New Member

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    Por favor Reiza... Dêem uma atenção a está questão!
     
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  4. Luis Almeida

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    Reiza.... please help us fixing the bugs... a new one now.... it is becoming painfull
     
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  5. Raphael Camelo

    Raphael Camelo Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It would be interesting if we could, even with the setup blocked, change the amount of fuel for the start, as it is in ams1.
     
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  6. Milton Eugenio

    Milton Eugenio New Member

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    Ótimo simulador, porém sempre uma caixinha de surpresas com seus bugs não resolvidos. Bom seria mais foco na solução dos bugs e menos empenho em novas DLCs$$$. Um reprodutor de vídeo que não pareça um toca-fitas também seria bem vindo! Ninguem merece ter que assistir a corrida inteira para ver uma lance no final, simplesmente "archaico".
     
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  7. Cássio Machado

    Cássio Machado New Member

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    We had the same problem weeks ago. Fixed Setup would not have to avoid choosing the fuel quantity
     
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    up!
     
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  9. BetoFlankerBR

    BetoFlankerBR New Member

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    Acredito que já passou da hora de investir mais no multiplayer e na correção de bugs. Novo conteúdo (DLC), sempre é bom mas acho que não é a única forma de manter o jogo "vivo".
    A insatisfação com os bugs (novos ou bugs não resolvidos), problemas de netcode no online, etc podem prejudicar o simulador e perder a base de usuários.
    Curto muito o AMS2 (antes só jogava esse simulator) mas as vezes tenho a impressão que tudo está sendo lançado as pressas e sem o devido cuidado.
     
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  10. Thiago Bertazzoni

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    UP Reiza, c'mon ! Every att you send, came with a new bug. Open setup, tires, fuel, gravity center about a lot of cars, replay, the list goes on and on!
     
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  12. Douglas Garcia

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    É realmente muito cansativo lidar com situações como essas, principalmente no cenário competitivo, onde há muito mais do que diversão "em jogo".

    Tenho certeza que parte do público do AMS 2 compreende as questões estratégicas envolvidas nos lançamentos das DLC's, por exemplo, e até desfruta da diversão que elas trazem.

    Quem possui a Season Pass, uma das formas de incentivo ao desenvolvimento mais completas em curto prazo, fica feliz em ver que o software continua evoluindo, em qualquer que seja a vertente.

    Fato é que, muito embora a diversão offline seja incrível no AMS 2, os fatores que permitiriam que o cenário competitivo fosse mais explorado aparentemente estão sendo deixados de lado ou não possuem solução, por qualquer que seja o motivo.

    Eu, como entusiasta, devo continuar utilizando o AMS 2 em meus momentos de lazer, para apreciar todos os pontos positivos que o game traz.

    Como piloto virtual, porém, vou reconsiderar o risco de expor as marcas que, com muito custo, decidem estar ao meu lado, em um contexto que não me garante que o meu empenho será refletido no resultado.

    Torço para que tudo de melhor ocorra com a continuação do desenvolvimento do game.

    Adoro a essência da empresa, e sou grande admirador da coragem de produzir algo tão grandioso e fora dos padrões. Obrigado por proporcionarem a experiência incrível de guiar carros de corrida nas pistas do meu país. Sou muito grato por isso.

    Fico disponível para ajudar como for possível.

    Fiquem bem.
     
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    Boraaaaaaaaaaa ! Nos ajude Reiza !
     
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  15. Matheus Saliba

    Matheus Saliba New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It really is a frustrating thing not being able to compete because of an unfair advantage given to some random drivers in the grid. If this persists, all races will be luck based?

    Should we move from longer races because we can't actually preview or change how much fuel every driver have and if they have the same amount?

    Guys, please look into this, these kind of things are what make a simulator go above and beyond, not live track data and an infinite growing roster of classic cars.

    Fix your foundations first before adding another floor, or else the whole building will colapse :)
     
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  16. Rodrigo Wizard

    Rodrigo Wizard New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi guys,
    F1BC drivers are also reporting this issue. Items of randomness regarding the initial fuel and time of car stopped at the pit stop have been items of concern for a balance in the competition. We are on hand to test whatever it takes.
     
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  17. ramsay

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    Can't you just use custom setups? I find it odd that league races are on default as surely setting the car up to your own personal preferences, track & conditions is part of real racing for most series and it is supposed to be a simulation of real world racing. Also why is real, or random weather not used often in league racing, again simulating real racing? The other thing this throws in the mix is that pit strategy and weather conditions would be a major influence for the race making tactical decisions part of the racing.

    I know i'll probably be told to mind my own business, but at least this issue would be avoided as a temporary measure. The use of default setups to create a level playing field seems daft to me especially when you can adjust roll-bars and brake bias on a lot of the cars which the former has a major influence on the car handling. This negates the whole argument of default setups as you are essentially creating a custom setup with the in car roll-bar settings.
     
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  18. Racing Bears TV

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    No, because Custom setups is not about car engineering or anything like that, but about discovering game exploits, being totally unrealistic, in the past we used custom setups but fixed setups is better for us.
     
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  19. steelreserv

    steelreserv Well-Known Member Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You’re preference for fixed setups notwithstanding, the basis for your opinion is shockingly ignorant. Consider for a moment that the main reason a sim is a sim is because they are simulating the physics of car mechanics. Without it you’re just driving pixel cars.
     
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  20. Luis Almeida

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    Open setup is good for who have time for fine tunning and tests, like in the major times the youths.
    Here in Brasil, the most parts of the leagues are joined by workers, marrieds, parents, etc.... long story short, almost no time for trainning.
    Fixed setups equalizes at least this subject.
     
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