Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    With Default, Default+, Custom or all FFB. I only ever run my 2.5 at 90 - 95 anyway, but will look out for it.
     
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  2. pista hufnagel

    pista hufnagel New Member

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    Hi
    Who uses tm, t300
    firmware update to 34.00
    Driver: 2.10.84.0
    and you get 1 new feature,BOOST (costant--Spring) ,you set it up,not bad,but maybe too much (large_track_bump_scale)? perhaps
    v34 Firmware for T300
     
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  3. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi, try some of the files on page 1, should be something suitable there.
     
  4. Shodan0000

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    I just used this the last few days in combination with default+ FFB. It completely transformed the FFB fot t300 for me. It is much more lively. It is a lot heavier. I adjusted the gain and Low force boost in AMS 2 settings which helped a lot. There is way more center feel now.

    At first I thought I did not like it, but then I turned boost off and I immediately missed the center feel of the wheel. I think this significantly improves the T300 wheel!
     
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  5. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I may have found a solution for mild oscillations I've always had with rFuktor 5.0.1 , while still maintaining the tight center I enjoy with it.

    changing the way the Lfb works with the centre to these older rFuktor values , then allows me to run no Lfb or Damper .
    (lfb_slider_strength 1.0) #0.0-1.0. How steep lfb slider adjusts the curve.
    (center_full (blend (min 1 (* lfb_slider 2)) 0.25 0.5))

    It seems to be working really well and feels very direct around center still without any deadzone , but so far ive not had the slight ocsilation with hands removed, only movement is just expected track details.
     
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  6. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Any word if someone is working on updating the thread as it's quit outdated now?

    It should have coincided with the FFB/physics update released in December.
     
  7. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I've been using it the past week in several titles and enjoying it for the most part.

    In iRacing/ACC it feels fantastic!
    FH5 felt better
    I tested it last night with AMS2 and it feels pretty good for the most part but I feel something missing/off...it is very heavy and a hell of a shoulder work out.
    I had a 3rd booster shot yesterday combined with several hrs of AMS2 last night and my shoulders are aching this morning.

    Tm Profile 75/100/100/100
    In-game 65/45/45/50

    Wish I could figure out how to read the ffb widget...with the above settings it felt pretty good with the formula trainer and 21 stock car....useless in the Copa truck as I had zero feedback other than heavy resistance....I couldn't even steer the truck out of pit lane at interlogos without crashing 3 times.

    My understanding of the ffb widget is you should have a decent balance of all the bars without the last one (red) showing any clipping.
    With those settings I was finding it was predominantly the first 2 bars and the 3rd only slightly appeared during a spin out.
    No clipping, but my fan stayed on for a few mins after playing and was a little warm.
    I've had the wheel for several yrs and it has done me well, I'll keep running the boost and hopefully it will hold up till I grab a new TM DD

    I still need to do some more testing to find a good balance.
     
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  8. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I can confirm that these changes work well on the Logitech G920 also. After setting "centering" to 0.58, and In Game to 94/10/25/9, all is smooth, no dead zone, no oscillations, and no gear grinding.
    Good find Kuku !

    latest G920 cFFB file as of 12-26-22.
    ffb_custom_settings
     
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  9. Manuel Staedel

    Manuel Staedel Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Where can I find a complete document about custom ffb file please?
     
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  10. Benzaah

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    Hey mate, Any chance you can post up your latest file? Ive got a g29 and Ive been using your files for a while but changing a few lines for personal taste.
    (brake_feel_follow_weight 0.20)
    (tear_threshold 0.25)
    This is the file i have loaded # File tuned for personal preferences by Peter Stefani for Logitech G920. 12/22/2021
    Regards Benzaah
     
  11. Shodan0000

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    I think the trick with AMS2 is to significantly lower the LFB, since the new boost setting might make this too heavy. I also reduced damping in the profile settings quite a bit (not 100% sure that does anything though).

    Turning on boost, using LFB while yourself being boosted might also be too much boost :D
     

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  12. AndreiC

    AndreiC Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Spring is managed by the game and should be set at 0 in TM Panel
    Damper should not be used and also should be set at 0 in TM Panel. It is recommended to used the in game damper as it is more complex as it take into account other forces also.

    How to setup Default+ ffb
    "Put all sliders to either 50 (middle) or 0. Pick your favourite car and a track with lots of variety like Oulton Park Classic.
    Adjust Gain until the overall "weight" of the FFB is as you like it. (The sliders menu can be accessed while you are out on track, so changes are felt immediately as soon as you "resume.")
    Adjust LFB until the cornering/car's weight shifting forces are balanced with the wheel self-centring forces.
    Adjust Damping until the right level of "springiness" is achieved (versus friction/resistance slowing the process of the wheel going to where it should go).
    Adjust FX so road surfaces, curbs, and so on are at the right level (not too harsh, but enough feedback that it feels natural)."


    Default +
    Game : 80 gain, 15 Low Force Boost, 25 FX and 20 Damping(without boost)
    Game : 35 gain, 40 Low Force Boost, 15 FX and 20 Damping(with Boost enabled, use McLaren 720 GT3)
    Thrustmaster Panel : 100,100,100,0,0
     
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  13. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    FILE: rFuctor 5.0.1.3
    USED WITH: G920 12-26-22 (Updated for use with Ovals and new tires) 1433.2216
    IN GAME: 93/10/25/1 (Damper is Damper)
    ffb_custom_settings
     
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  14. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I also got good results, maybe even better, by configuring it like this.

    Lfb slider strength 0.25
    Centre Full 1.0

    need to try out some other values when time allows, but it’s definitely helping reduce oscillation, though I still get some with higher downforce cars at high speed.
    I’m not sure what’s causing it, maybe something to do with downforce compression.
    But it’s weird that the higher you have damper in the non power steering 5.0.1 that you get stronger oscillation.
     
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  15. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the feedback.

    I tried the above settings with the formula trainer @ brands hatch they did feel better for the most part but I'm struggling to feel lateral grip in cornering...I can't seem to be able to get that leaning on the tire feel and when the rear starts to slide I'm driving by sight and sound as there is very little ffb info leading up to the limit and when its been pass.
    More or less the tire details just feels greasy.

    However those settings are a good starting point, thank you!

    I'm also hearing mixed feedback in regards to default +...I like the feeling under braking as you can feel the load moving forward but I'm reading many are saying it adds some bouncy feeling to the ffb ?

    Any suggestions for the default setting with boost enabled?

    For the record your settings do feel good on the GT3 cars :)

    I feel I'm going down the same old rabbit hole I did in PC1&2 in regards to the ffb....ya find a great ffb settings for a certain class...just to find you have to build a completely new profile for a different class
    Cheers
     
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  16. Chip

    Chip Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Kuku Maddog When you get a moment, can you please share the file you’re using these days? Last I recall, it’s a hybrid between 4.6 and 5.1, but then it seems you’ve made a couple edits to help oscillations? Just wondering if you’d be willing to upload the file itself (sorry if this is already in your zip folder).
     
  17. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I use rFuktor 5.0.1 in almost standard state of tune. it just a good steady but informative file that gels with so many cars without adjustments and has great weight to it.

    and yeah it’s in my zip as that the easiest way for me rather than having a mess of files on my different devices.
     
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  18. Benzaah

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    Thanks
     
  19. J.King

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    Hi guys, i am totally new too this.
    i have a CSL DD

    is there a possiblity someone could share there FFB settings ?
    in NOOB language.

    i did read allot of pages back,But it's confusing for me
    i think because of all the different wheelbases.

    i hope someone can help me with these info for the CSL DD

    thanks allot

    Jor
     
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  20. Daniel Escalona

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    Hi J.King and welcome to the AMS2 community.
    I'm a CSL DD (8nm kit) owner and first of all I recommend you to download (if no done yet) the Fanalab app and load the predefined AMS2 profile they have.
    If you don't like Fanalab, or you're not willing to run any apps in background while playing AMS2, you can just use this settings in your Fanatec Control Panel (go to the Tunning menu section and make sure to enable "Advanced Mode" so you can tune your wheel base settings):
    SEN Auto
    FFB 100
    FFS PEAK
    NDP 25%
    NFR OFF
    NIN OFF
    INT 4
    FEI 100
    FOR 100
    SPR 100
    DPR 100
    For further info, you can go to the recommended settings from Fanatec forum here.

    Concerning FFB custom files, right now my favourites are these:

    I like this one from @Karsten Hvidberg because I think is very rich overall, I specially love the scrub/wheel slip effect which brings a lot of inmersion in cars with less downforce like German group C, Mitsubishi Lancers, Porsche RSR, Copa Classic (Chevette, wow!), between others.
    Maybe the down part is the lack of strength/weight compared with some other files here, so my ingame settings are a little high for being a direct drive wheel.
    My in-game settings:
    Gain: 70 - 80
    Low Force Boost: 40
    FX: 40 - 50
    Damping: 0
    Menu Spring Strenght: (this setting just affect the wheel spring strenght in MENUS, it doesn't affect gameplay at all)

    This one from @Alegunner68 is quite similar to Karsten's but it feels heavier which I like because it gives me more weight range to run between cars with less downforce and open wheelers for example.
    Here the wheel scrubbing / sliding effect is present but quite attenuated compared to the Karsten file which could be a problem for those who use bass shakers in their cocpits as the effect could be kind of buried by the other stronger vibrations.
    My in-game settings:
    Gain: 70 - 75
    Low Force Boost: 40
    FX: 40
    Damping: 10
    Finally, I remind you that we are talking in the world of subjectivity and what may be great for some, could be ridiculous for others.
    In my game configuration it's obvious that I like somewhat high effects, which might not be to your liking, so I recommend that you to follow a tutorial to get the ideal configuration for you.
    This video from Simracing 604 could be of great use to you in that regard.
    Well I hope this serves as an orientation to start enjoying this great game with such a great steering wheel. ;)

    EDIT: some typos.
     
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  21. J.King

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    wauw amazing feedback and thanks allot for al this information i am going too check it all and i will let you know how it goes. ! great
     
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