Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Both friction and "damping" are a kind of damping, and some people just want none of it, meaning they actually feel it better at 0. Only the current way supports that.
I am oblivious how some people on a SC2 or other DD would prefer damping at 0, but at least the current way supports it.

 

First and foremost, thank you so so much for attempting individualized tunes for me to test! Some quick, back-to-back testing revealed the following:
-The 5.0.1.2 is my favorite of the two tunes
-It feels better in almost every aspect than my previous favorite (4.6 Delta X Tune V3)
-The only thing I need to adjust is the tire losing contact with tarmac after a kerb. With 4.6 Delta X V3, the effect of the tires momentarily leaving the surface of the tarmac is intoxicating. Eau Rouge is a pure joy and closely resembles on-board footage in terms of steering wheel reaction. With 5.0.1.2, the feeling is pretty much gone, but I am guessing it's just a matter of adjusting some effect sliders in the file, so certainly not something you should feel compelled to adjust on my behalf...especially because this is all a matter of personal taste anyway.

Overall, I love the 5.0.1.2 so thanks heaps for spending the time to tune it for me! Oh, and just to chime in on your post directly above: I do not run any dampening either in-game or in my wheelbase software (True Drive). I agree some built in friction is probably important to simulate real-world steering rack feel, but dampening only seems to mute the severe changes in wheel position that make a DD wheel feel so immersive. As with most things though, there is a balance to be struck...I just tend to lean towards preferring a less-dampened feel.

 

Hey, Yes it does cause clipping if you don't scale the settings back a little. I was running up to 40 FX on previous files but to be honest, I'm using a G29 so I'm not expecting full road texture and all the subtleties that a DD wheel delivers.

For settings Im running 80 gain(85%ffb incar), 25 low force boost, 25 fx and 50 Damping. I cant turn up the fx more than 25 without clipping on curbs etc but find that with the damping at 50 it feels fuller(id normally only run 15 to 25 damping).

I love the heaviness of the file and the ability to feel the edge of grip and the slip angles in the lower powered P2/3 cars. I might play around with the file a little and adjust the texture scale, kerb scale, centering and the bump/brake feel follow weight. otherwise im finding the file really good.

 

Hi guys. Anyone can tell me how can I avoid the steering wheel bouncing at 0 km/h speed with no FFB changes during normal driving? I've tried to put 70 % of static force reduction of my SimuCUBE SC2 Pro (top max) but with no changes in it. Thank you.

 

Is this with a custom file?
If so it's the engine vibrations, so search for engine and set it to 0 when at still.

 

No, I use the game options only. :/

PD: Sorry, just now I've seen the other thread for no custom FFB settings. We´ll see there. Thank you.

 

fyi

i think i’m going to need to revisit the new scrub scales.
there are some cars that have very harsh feelings, like the GT1s and just about any porsche in game, there’s bound to be others.
they feel very jagged and skipping.

Initially i think lower scrub scale and much higher frequency is yielding better feeling.

 

im beginning to think it may be a case of some cars like the Gt1s for example have unforgiving tire tread models.

the skipping and jumping seems to occur at the slide or slip moment and is made worse by uneven surfaces like at kyalami historic.
lowering the slide factor does reduce the feeling as it raises the point that the file is trying to communicate grip loss while turning past the ideal steering angle.

drive the Gt1s around kyalami historic and you will get a sense of what I mean.
It’s like when the tires regain some purchase, they grip to much or too suddenly, making the car jump .

 

The latest beta build has some (apparently significant) changes for custom ffb files. I don’t think I’m allowed to detail the changes, but thought I’d give the tuners a heads up to save wasted efforts.

 

Normally, I’d be excited about such news, but for some reason this sounds a bit ominous!

 

There are some known issues related to FFB in yesterday's beta release but, should be corrected in the next one.

I tested with GT4 class (Custom ffb) and noticed an increase in Tear / Scrub / Brake effects but, not as much as is being reported with Default+.

Best to wait and see how things get resolved in the next release before tweaking custom files.

 

Hi guys,

I am a noob here related to ffb settings and I would like some help, if possible. Currently I´m using fanatec DD1 with formula V2.5 wheel amd clubsport BMW GT2 v2 wheel.

I have tried the customs ffb but I don´t think it went good due to my configurations outside of the config file. What values should I put in Fanalab and what values should I use in the FFB Settings inside the game so I could have the ffb working correctly?

Currently, in Fanalab I am using the values they suggest, but after installing the custom files I felt my wheel became very soft, with strong feedback only when passing through the bumps.

And thanks for all the effort you guys are putting to make the game even better!!

 

Can someone give me some directions on which custom FFB file to use and what settings to use?

I'm using an OSW Simucube (Small Mige). Here are my current settings:

Simucube software:
Strength 100%
Damping 0 %
Friction 5%
Inertia 40%
Force Recon Filter 5

In game:
Strength 40
FX 5
Damper 50

I tried the latest 5.0.1.3 from the first page here but with the above settings it just doesn't feel nearly as good as Default or Default+ in my opinion. Can anyone share their settings with similar hardware?

For reference, I like a pure rack feeling without any 'seat of pants' feeling on top.

Cheers!

 

Hello Guys,

I have Fanatec CSL DD(8nm) and drove the couple races with Standard, or Standard+ Profile.
Now i tried that latest "rFuktor 5.0.1.3" custom FFB File. But this gives me no good feedback. Curbs, slip etc...

My Settings:
Fanalab: recommended settings from Fanatec
Ingame: 65/0/0/0

You all talk about super fidelity feedback with this "rFuktor 5.0.1.3".

I understand that FX and Damper ingame settings are used in a different way with the custom FFB File, then with the Standard or Standard+.

Any advise how to set fx, damper an gain to get a basic setting where i can start with?

I know i have similar question like "trillbo" and "JayMe", but different hardware. ;-)

 

@Karsten Hvidberg hi again! i've done some testing with the 5. files regarding the self aligning/drifting issue and i'm not convinced that it's completely fixed, tho it feels a bit better.

I decided to do some tweaks to some of the settings to see if any of them make it better but i realized i'm not really sure what some of them do, so i thought maybe i ask you guys to tweak them for ultimate realism, even if that means i lose some information. Let me explain:
I started with the main dials like this.
master_rack 1.0)
(master_road 0.0)
(master_effects 0.0)

My logic was that in a real car, through the steering wheel, u'd only really feel what the rack is doing, bumps and other vibration should be felt not only in your hand but rather by your entire body, and they are transmitted by the entire car chassis, not just the steering wheel. In short, i'm only after pure wheel self aligning. I want to feel bumps and vibrations only "indirectly", for example when you hit a bump in such an angle that it makes the wheel rotate a bit and it ultimately creates a small change in slip angle, thus moving the rack too.

These main dial settings felt better instantly, so i decided to move on to the rack settings, but most of them don't make sense to me. I turned off static force reduction as i imagine that is also not something that happens IRL. All the other stuff is not really clear to me, especially the slip crossover curves, but i guess most stuff should have 1 or 0 to get the most real wheel behaviour.

I tried changing all of them 1 by 1 but i couldnt really figure them out, so please, could you guys tune a file for me to reflect a pure, real steering wheel behaviour, completely isolated from the rest of the car?

 

Right, you will need to adjust the values for both base and in game.
Default/default + both give a very strong sensation(call it exaggerated) that you need to dampen in several ways on a dd base. The custom files do it opposite, except for specificly tuned variations: They give the signal very un-exaggerated that should be very minimally filtered on a dd base.

So for simucube, set:
Friction 0
Inertia 0
Force recon 1

Ingame

Fx 25-ish
Damping 30-ish

 

Thanks @Karsten Hvidberg, I will try that out!

 

Please turn down or off most fanatec filters. I think the ones you refer to are made to dampen default/default+ which you should not do with the custom file.

I game, please set fx 25-35 and damping 30.

 

master_rack adjusts everything.
I think maybe start over with the original values in place and then set only master_effects at 0.

 

This works very well, thanks! I think I understand these custom FFB files a bit more now. I made some small tweaks to the 5.0.1.3 file as I'm not a fan of the scrub and tear effects, but still want some of the other effects. Feels great now. Thanks again!