Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

I was able to test Stakanov's Custom over the afternoon. Only one hour but that's enough for a first assessment, of course I'll test more precisely and longer. Please no hate comments or bad words, like Stakanov I try to make the custom as good as possible. And I also pass on what I notice or might work better. My custom is not perfect either and there will always be something to improve. And it's criticism on a very high level with these custom files. Believe me, I don't care who made the custom and I would change immediately if it were better. Rob once described it very well that there should be a constant battle between car and track and the steering always at the limit. I compared the V1.1 without yaw, and this also with dd values and values according to the original. You can also test it yourself and see and feel what I have tested myself. Test1: Formula USA Gen. 1 with the Lola T95 car on the Road America track. The vibrations are still too much for me personally (taking both hands off the wheel is almost impossible). The steering becomes very heavy and hard in the corners. In the long, fast bends, pay attention to the ffb display, the line will remain very flat and the bumps in the track are much less noticeable. Compare it yourself to see and feel it. (scrub_vibes_scale must be 0 with dd in any case. Everything above that results in extreme tugging and tearing on the steering (can be felt when starting at full throttle) but even 0 is still too much tugging on the steering axle. In the 2nd test with the GT1 Mc Laren can also test it out for themselves what I mean by that and feel, as I said, I don't want to downplay Stakanov's work.These are just suggestions for improvement so that our files get better

 

Test 2: GT1 Mc Laren F1 at the Imola circuit. Actually, the jumping and bouncing of the cars got better with the update from Reiza. But unfortunately it is very bad with the V1.1 (suspension). Test it yourself, drive out of the garage and keep to the far right. Accelerate in 1st gear and watch the ffb line and feel the beats and bounce. Then with my custom, it's a big difference. Of course, this also makes car control more difficult. As I said, this is criticism on a high level, but I think if Stakanov and his people can improve it, then it will be awesome. Greetings from Switzerland

 

Mr. @Danielkart I think it is more useful to communicate which values you would change in the file to improve it, than to do an analysis without the solutions and with a continuous comparison, among other things Stakanov has already communicated that this is an initial melody to be tuned and improved, but with only an analysis talkative about what you like best I don't think it goes far.
I don't think that mr Stakanov wants this, I think from expert users that he wants practical advice on how to improve it. These are a discussions that can be done in private if without solution and only a list of bad emotions!!!
I am not an expert and I am not able, but I think that the experts also expect the correction, why don't you try to correct what you want and don't send them the inputs or the file with your modify? I think it helps him more!!! No?

I notice some things too, but I notice many others ... the file is wonderfull with all the initial variables to fix!!
Mr. @Stakanov if I find some value that improves what I don't like, I will communicate it to him hoping it will help you

 

I have to test and analyze first, that's completely normal. The file is from Stakanov, I can't just put everything right right away. There are countless variations and possibilities. I don't have the overview with his custom that I have with my custom. I always pass on my feedback and what I notice, you would also know that if you followed the thread

 

only pass on things that are relevant and for which Custom is important. Whether a value is 0.1 or 0.2 is not important and a matter of taste. I hope you understand what I mean

 

(Father)
Mr. @Danielkart i am using Stakanov's file with DD1 and without problems and it is true that there is something to improve (but not this level of discomfort and with a constant need to comparison), and since he knows how to tune a file better (lower the bump, the suspensions, the oscillations, ....) because it doesn't propose to him what to correct or which values to use on DD, would I think it would be more useful? I think that you are right when says that he must finish testing it.
Modify it as he sees fit and send it to Stakanov, I don't think he doesn't listen to it, on the contrary it seems to me that he follows him a lot in terms of values.

Otherwise continue to propose your splendid file with your modifications and I will be the first to use it if to my taste. Thanks for all your works.

 

If you want to make progress you should embrace other people's opinions. Criticism is a good thing as long as it's constructive. If everyone just made compliments all the time, that'd mean stagnation.
Imo nobody should feel insulted by criticism, they should be thankful.

 

But what does it have to do with it, criticize me as well but tell me where am I wrong to make pizza ... but if you also sell pizzas then it's not criticism ... I think it's clear or not???

 

Believe me, I would pass my changes on to Stakanov right away if I knew. Such a custom file is the result of countless hours of testing, so you can't just conjure something out of the hat for another custom. Stakanov couldn't do that for mine either because he has enough to do with his own. It's not easy to change a few values and then it's good. And it is always the difference in the bases that makes everything even more difficult. Stakanov has many helpers in the background, I'm alone. I will definitely continue to look into the Stakanov custom and if I find something I will certainly pass it on

 

Really good point about looking at the FFB display, @Danielkart - had not considered to look at it while testing. I’ll give it a try.

 

You make it look like there is ill intent or something. I think the respect between the guys is obvious. If you make pizza yourself your criticism is even more valuable. People should be more open minded to ideas and suggestions without always looking at things through your 'criticism is disrespectful' glasses.

 

I tested out the latest from Stakanov and it's very informative and also heavy on my DD1 which I know I can adjust the file and overcome that.

The thing that stood out to me is the wheel doesn't go light when grip is lost on the front. I've tried adjusting the slip_crossover items to what I'm using in my custom based 5.0.1.4 file but I wasn't able to get anything better in the limited time I had.

As a reference this is my custom file based off of the default 5.0.1.4 which I further adjusted the slip_crossover items and it goes light just when the front tires have lost grip.

 

Yes, thiago, that's why I share my experiences and try to pass them on to everyone. If I didn't care then I could keep it to myself, I just want all these opportunities to be there. And as I said, I never said that Stakanov's file is bad, on the contrary. It's simply constructive criticism that his but also my custom is progressing, then everyone benefits from it

 

hey ! Thanks for your custom will definitely test it Yes, I know what you mean, but it is also very different from the cars. The steering should be easier if you lose grip. Take the Formula 1 ultimate 2019. Look at the wheels when braking and release the brake. Wonderful to see and feel, but then there are other cars where you can hardly feel anything. It's a bit of a compromise I guess

 

Ne ho provati molti, ma il mio preferito rimane rFuktor 5.0.1.4-experimental8
sempre testato con 911 GTE Olton Park
Io uso Simcube 2 pro.

 

That's good to know. I'm really curious to hear from the other Simucube 2 users out there...they have been very quiet recently...

 

I have to say, I have liked @Stakanov's files, up to v1.1 of his latest Atmos file. The wheel shakes like crazy before I even start a race. Then it shakes more as I take off. Unfortunately I didn't even make it to turn one. This is the only file that has done this to me. I tried putting all my values from an earlier version in it, but still did it. Changed back to v1.0 and the wheel was normal again. Something is not right in v1.1 for me.

 

Where are you guys? @Panos Schoino @Shadak @Karsten Hvidberg

 

As i feel that the game ffb has been deteriorated for me in the last (or 1 version before the last) update (ss we are in 1.3.6.1 as we speak) what custom file can i use from here to test it?

Also any suggestions about both control panel and in game settings?

G27 user here

 

Hey Chip,

I, at least, am following the thread, but that is all.

My rig is not in a good shape, brake-pedal not really working so well (any advice on a rig that is simple to attach buttkicker etc on to is appreciated from anybody) .

In general it would have been fun if the file had been added to the game as some default ffb profile, but that did not happen, unf. and for me it became way too diminishing returns on both improvements as well as people having to spend time configuring custom ffb files.

It is awesome that several other people have picked up the torch instead.

Best,

-K