Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    hi all. not really a custom ffb question, but it is relevant to ffb

    I've been using the CSL DD since before Reiza updated the game to include a setup for the CSL DD specifically. I've been using the generic wheel and pedal separate profile for the wheel. I'm considering switching it to the specific CSL DD profile, but this would require re-mapping all the buttons which is a pain in the ass to do. Is there any tangible benefit to switching to that set up? In ffb quality, or other benefit. For instance, the funky switch twirl funciton isn't supported that I can tell.

    Anyone know?
     
  2. 0ct0

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    Thank you both - I tried adjusting those values to no avail.

    To be clear the effect is a wrist breaking 100% ffb snap on the wheel at the point the car comes to rest during a spin (so I'm told, as I never spin!) at the point there would be the least force you get all the force your wheel can supply in a jolt (In a real car it would be a bit of tyre sidewall springing back to normal shape but x100)

    the force during the spin is as expected.

    Try whipping the arse end of a Porshce around on a hairpin until it gives out.

    I'll try tweaking a bit more
     
  3. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Can't you just create a new control set? You can have up to 5, and when you create one you can use an existing one as your baseline. If you don't like it, you can just switch back. Alternatively, just make a backup copy of your Documents/Automobilista 2 folder
     
  4. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    thanks for the reply. Indeed I have multiple setups. But if I switch over to the CSL DD preset, I'll have to re-do the button mapping - and if there isn't a tangible benefit to switching over I don't wanna go through the trouble, right?
     
  5. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Anyone have a link to a walk through guide of creating a custom ffb file?
     
  6. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    If you find something, please be sure to let us know. As you say, can be very hard on wrists.
     
  7. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Sure, but I thought the value of a preset was that it came with all the button mapping - i.e. you change to CSL DD and the buttons will automatically map to where they 'should' be?
     
  8. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    whoah, is that the value of the preset? hmm, no, I don't think so.... it can't be. At least I hope not. 'cuz the wheel and the wheel base are separate. different wheels come with different buttons. the CSL DD must be about the ffb.
     
  9. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There are a few more features it unlocks, but if you look at the fanatec SDK, it allows game developers to:
    ...make use of the additional wheel vibration/rumble motors (not the FFB motors)
    ...make use of the tuning display (for gear display, speeder, ...)
    ...make use of the vibration motors on ClubSport Pedals
    ...make use of the rev LEDs on ClubSport Wheel rims
    ...detect different Fanatec products if they have the same USB product ID (CSR or CSR Elite, etc.)
    ...detect the rim type connected to the ClubSport Wheel Base
    ...etc.
    For the actual FFB forces, however:
    What is not a function of the Fanatec SDK?
    The SDK is not necessary to get output (pedal axis, steering wheel axis/rotation, button inputs) from our hardware. This is controlled by DirectInput only, as our devices are HID standard devices.
    The SDK is not necessary to send force feedback effects to the wheel. For that you will only need to install the driver and send standard direct input commands for FFB.

    Fanatec
     
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  10. JavierZumaeta

    JavierZumaeta Active Member

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    hey, thank you. would you say then it is worth it? Would I get more ffb fidelity by switching to that setting?
     
  11. MickT

    MickT Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I don't know - you should try it out. Despite the above, it's entirely possible Reiza also tweak the FFB output based on the preset, but only Reiza can tell you that.
     
  12. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I doubt there would be any difference in FFb , but it’s not that much of a hassle to assign a few buttons . so might as well try it.
    you have probably spent more time asking about doing it than it would take to do it :D.
    plus you might as well get practice because sometimes you might need to reset things after an update or something fanatecy happened.
     
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  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    it’s a case of Kinetic energy, that force has to go somewhere. , irl it would be absorbed by power steering system mostly , but that’s not possible here.
    i think it’s quite a good example of how detailed the Momentum rack is . and there’s a clue in the name … momentum.

    you shouldn’t really be fighting the wheel wanting to release that energy and should either let go or just loosen you grip and let the wheel slide on your palms .
     
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  14. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    As Kuku said, release the wheel before you drive into a wall, as is the reality. I drive 10-12Nm peaks, which is completely sufficient, everything above that goes into go-kart forces. Monaco is good for testing F1 cars because of the tight slow corners and I have absolutely no problems with power. I think you switched from a belt base to a simagic? Of course, these are completely different forces and you have to get used to them first
     
  15. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's nothing to do with driving into a wall. As soon as the car begins to slide and you apply opposite lock, the steering becomes very heavy. Not realistic. I have tried a few of these files and they all do it to some degree. And I am still on CSW 2.5 at the moment. Was just asking as it would be nice to find a setting that can reduce this effect. Apart from that, they are all sooooo much better than Default and Default+. Thanks to all those involved in making these files for us.
     
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  16. Pascal Villemin

    Pascal Villemin New Member

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    Any chance for Simucube 1 OSW Settings and a custom ffb file? (Driver and ingame)
    Just need a baseline to tweak from...so much settings on wheel side alone...
     
  17. GoobMB

    GoobMB Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I had exactly the same issue (CSL DD). Maurice Boschen's tune of DanielKart custom file doesn't have that - probably the profile which suits me the most of all I tried.
     
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  18. Danielkart

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    This has nothing to do with the file. Maurice from the Fanatec forum makes a separate setting for the base for each car. Then you can load the profile instead of changing the values for each car at the base. I think you will notice that . I only change the power on the base 50-70% depending on the car and that's it. I don't know Maurice but I think so
    his settings for the base can certainly also be good for the people
     
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  19. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So where did you get his tune from? Can you post on here? Thanks.
     
  20. Handpflegecreme

    Handpflegecreme Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah, but as I know he fine-tuned the base settings for your file V44, wich runs great for me on my DD1 ;-)
     
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