Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Not really.
     
  2. Morek

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    Hi, you mean the recommendations at the AM2 1.4 Forum, Post 1 ?
     
  3. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Normally inside the custom file, using a text editor.

    PS: Sorry to interfere with your conversation with JDean
     
  4. Morek

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    Thanks
     
  5. Danielkart

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    That's true, but just what my personal taste is. I don't like it when the loss of grip is too big because it takes control of the car. And because it's a simulation with no feedback (G-forces in reality) I feel better with less loss of grip. But now there is another thing. The loss of grip is also in my files, but less severe. Each car in Ams2 has its own physics and there are very big differences. An example: Take the default ffb because this simulates the loss of grip much more. Now they take the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup and compare the grip loss with the Porsche 911 RSR GTE. The GTE will simulate the loss of grip much better than the Cup. Another example: Mini Cooper JCW felt very little or almost no loss of grip in the steering axle. You see there is also a huge difference between the cars and what people are testing. It's always a compromise and of course personal taste. And don't forget the car setup options. I have little experience there, but a Steelreserv can certainly get the best out of the cars
     
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  6. Kevin del Campo

    Kevin del Campo Active Member

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    Its been a while since Ive played AMS2 but I recently upgraded to a Simucube Pro and would like to give it another try.
    I like my FFB to be "informative" (been playing rf2 mostly) and have already downloaded Kuku rFuktor 5.0.K profile for true drive.

    Could someone point me to the latest FFB file and settings that go with it? :)

    Edit: Nevermind, found it through the true drive file by entering url manually...
     
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  7. Aza340

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    Hi Daniel. Don't think that I was criticizing your file because I wasn't , am currently using the latest one and enjoying very much thanks.
    Personally I would like to feel a bit more lightness in the wheel when the fronts break traction or lock up under heavy breaking but each to there own of course.
    So you say it is incorporated in your file, is it possible to increase the effect ? Which line would need adjustment?
    Thanks.
     
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  8. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hey Aza! No problem, I don't see it as criticism, on the contrary. Constructive criticism is always good don't worry. Yes, my files are designed not to have too much grip loss. I would have to rebuild the whole file and go back to older files. I hope you understand that I will of course stick to my files.What you can still test is to increase the (slide_factor 0.5). That will give you more slip feeling but I think you are looking for something else
     
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  9. TonyM

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    Which rFuktor version do you use?
    And do you like it compared to rF2?
     
  10. Aza340

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    Thanks for the advice Daniel, will give that a try tomorrow night.
    I know it's very hard to put into words what we feel with ffb and of course so many variables from wheelbase to wheelbase . I will try and explain exactly what sensation I'm searching for .
    Imagine going round a long fast bend that gets gradually tighter , as you progress through that bend your front tyres start to gradually slide over the track surface.
    While this is happening I would like a slight rumble or vibration through the steering column but also would expect a small decrease in centering force from the steering wheel .
    I know the default ffb already does this but ( on my wheel at least ) it's massively over exaggerated! Have tried to tune it out with every conceivable setting know to man but to no avail.
    In a nutshell I just want a bit of understeer feeling.
    While I'm on a roll though I've also noticed no decrease in force's from V50 when turning on grass , would have thought mechanical grip would drop by at least 50% ?
    I have also experienced very large ffb spikes when coming to rest after a spin , almost as if the peak forces are higher than the gain should allow.
    Anyway just my observations while driving with a Simplicity 20nm direct drive wheel.
    Thanks.
     
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  11. Danielkart

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    Unfortunately, the large forces after a spin are a general problem in Ams2. The defaults were corrected with the last updates but unfortunately with other side effects (again my personal opinion) I have already greatly reduced it in the file and am almost at the limit. I also think that 10-12Nm peaks are completely sufficient for an intensive and authentic driving experience. In the past it was hardly possible, for example in Monaco, to get around the curves in an F1 car. Turn onto grass? Just try to stay on track, it's more fun;) You can also try reducing the (understeer_scale 1.85) a little along with increasing the (slide_factor 0.5) a little. But be careful, the file reacts very sensitively to major changes, which then always leads to new combinations for me and also makes them necessary. Maybe it helps you a little and there are many other Customs files or the defaults, in the end it's always a matter of taste
     
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  12. 0ct0

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    I fully agree, and exactly these feelings are the ones I have been tuning in / out on my config file.

    The one I can't crack yet is that dangerous spike on the conclusion of a spin.
    Almost like the tyre flex snap back from the rear tyres coming through the rack?
     
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  13. Danielkart

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    Hi Markus! This is very interesting, I have already received several feedback from Simucube owners that the 3rd file in particular works well. Can you tell me your in-game and simucube base settings? Many Thanks
     
  14. Aza340

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    Yes at nearly 20nm it's a wrist snapper , hands off the wheel job for sure .
    Did you manage to tune in any front grip loss feel ? I've not had any joy so far .
     
  15. Danielkart

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    Hi Aza! Sorry for my interference. Do I understand you correctly that you want to use your full 20Nm? At the base 100%that corresponds to 20Nm? Then I understand you now. My file is of course with 12-13Nm peaks. If you want 20Nm peaks then change the following rack_momentum_l (* 11 (jump tyre_l 100000 1 1) mom_FL)) and
    (rack_momentum_r (* 11 (Spring tyre_r 100000 1 1 mom_FR)). Both values reduce 11 to maybe 7 or even 6. In addition, I would reduce IN-Game FX a little bit. Greetings Daniel
     
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  16. 0ct0

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    Give this a whirl - for Simucube - Falloff is subtle just after the scrubbing.
    Please live with it for a few days. I'll pop my Game settings and my TD profile in later but It's 40 gain in game.
     

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  17. Aza340

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    Thanks Octo , will give it a run later on . Very much appreciated.
     
  18. Aza340

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    Hi Daniel . Thanks for sharing, will have a play later on . Cheers.
     
  19. Nolive721

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    Very new owner of a Moza R9 with CS wheel after ditching the logitech DD GPRO I had for a month
    Any user here that would recommend a Custom file and in Game settings for the R9?
    Thanks in advance
     
  20. deadly

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    Also thinking about buying a Moza equipment. Is it supported by AMS 2 or must you do a workaround when calibrating ingame?
     

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