Track layouts to receive AI line redos

Watkins Glen

Overall at 120 they feel pretty slow through most of the track.

No idea if you want something like this or not but I figured I would include it.

Watkins Glen International: Using this for reference: Watkins Glen International - Wikipedia

Turn 1 too slow which makes them slow on 2, 3 and 4 which doesn't help down the back straight.
Turn 5 they slow down heavily half way through
Turn 7 Fine on going into the turn but around the apex and exiting they are slow.
Turn 8 Slow and too much side by side so the inner AI always pulls dirt onto the track
Turn 10 Slow going in
Turn 11 Slow in and out so slow down the front straight

 

Imola is pretty bad in all the Formula Gens, they go off road, bounce on the kerbs in the chicanes and tend to overtake themselves by barging against each other. They race fine against the player, but between themselves, nope! Their speed is fine, they are just too erratic.

 

Road America is one that needs looking at I think.
The AI always end up crashing into each other in turn 4 (I think it's 4) - that first tight left hander

 

If one corner is a real issue then imo this deserves a complete redo.
I post quite regularly in the Beta AI feedback thread, I can link some findings here.

Buenos Aires No.8
Buenos Aires No.15
Montreal Historic 1988
San Marino 1988
Kyalami 1976
VIR North

 

Interlagos 1976 is another pretty bad one, the AI lose two seconds on the start-finish straight with the F-Retros, because they seemingly don't accelerate out of the last corner and can't take start-finish flat out. Also, they lose a lot in T1, which they approach weirdly.

 

Nuburgring GP/Veedol: the brake after Schumacher S (turn ¿10, 11? ¿Kuhmo?), AI usually brake too soon.

 

@Renato Simioni
When I do those AI reports would you recommend using no custom AI parameters?

 

I can support Kyalami 1976, where, similarly to Interlagos 1976, they have a lot of trouble with the final corner, where they lose 5-6 tenths to the player.

Another one is Jacarepagua 1988, the AI are very slow in the middle of Sol (T6), then go through the following S astoundingly quickly (but maybe I'm the problem in that one) and lose another few tenths out of T9.

EDIT: Oh, and not sure if relevant here, but AI love to crash into the tire barriers at the chicanes of Oulton Park and cause huge pile-ups.

 

Londrina, the short version. In the first turn, the chicane, i can gain a few tenths on the AI, by braking earlier then them, and applying throttle earlier. I do race on 97 AI difficulty, so a better driver might have to double check this.
AI also feels a bit too fast, maybe, in the last 2corners of the track.

Both these issues can be reproduces with several car classes, from classic DTM, to P3s, to classic F1 cars.

 

yes by all means correct, Oulten is an AI killer in the chicanery

 

Although Cascais Historic has already had AI improvements (their most significant slowness through the final corner having been addressed), I'm still finding them a bit slow in places, particularly in GT3s and Porsche Cup. I think they lose most time at T1 - they are braking at around 200m when I can easily leave it until about 100m, so they are losing 0.5+ secs and it's a very easy overtake. They are generally not very aggressive on the brakes. T4 also tends to be quite an easy overtake - they leave the inside line wide open most of them time.

 

Road America with GTEs the AI cut the corners too much causing them to go on two wheels or bounce into other cars when hitting the kerps

 

spilberg 1977 AI making erratic move between pit and turne 1 P,Q after exiting the pits

 

F-Inter at Brasilia Outer

Default date, heavy rubber, 5 minute Q, 5 lap race, AI @ 100/High, default set up.

I got pole by 1.6 seconds (S1 +0.9, S2 +0, S3 +0.7) and won the race by 10-11 seconds. Was 3 seconds ahead after first lap. (And I am very averagely paced). I repeated from the back of the grid and drove slowly so I could see how the AI are...

AI are slow through and out of turns 1, 4 and 5. Turn 2 they're not so bad and T3 is full speed anyway. They seemed quite well behaved but do go over the high inside kerbs, with two wheels on the grass often. This is mostly at T1, 4 and 5 again.

 

F-Inter at Campo Grande

Default date, heavy rubber, 5 minute Q, 5 lap race, AI @ 100/High, default set up.

I got pole by 0.8 seconds (0.2-0.3 up in each sector) and won the race easily, though only by about 3 seconds.Repeated from back of grid and driving slowly:

AI brake a little early into T1 I'd say, but overall were braking better into corners than me but were always slower on the straights. The left hand hairpin near the end of the lap is the worst area, where they are losing easily half a second. Didn't see them go on the grass very often, except when running two or three wide into a turn.

 

F-Inter at Cascavel

Default date, heavy rubber, 5 minute Q, 5 lap race, AI @ 100/High, default set up.

I got pole by 0.925 seconds (S1 +0.15, S2 -0.13, S3 +0.9) and won the race by 8.4 seconds, with fastest lap by 1.8 seconds. (I am very averagely paced). I repeated from the back of the grid and drove through the field to see how the AI are...

AI are very slow through and out of turns 5 and 7. They seemed well behaved and only went on the grass a little when fighting side by side.

 

GTEs at Snetterton 300, AI runs to grass when side by side on Riches (T1) and Palmer (T3). Line seems better if AI alone. I have seen AI running on grass on both places also with other classes and with other configurations in T1.

AI is braking little bit too early for Oggies compared to me and running little bit slow at Coram. This is also more noticable when AI running in group. Otherwise pace at 100 AI is pretty similar to me.

 

Guys, I'm not sure on this, but I interpreted this thread as "let's get rid of the biggest discrepancies". So reporting everything that isn't _quite_ right is just going to clutter this.