Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi Daniel ! You make me doubt, so i tested again :) Yes i can confirm that this file gives you fast response steering, precision, road detail and suspensions, and brake feeling. I tested this morning Porsche cup, GT3, GT1, BMW M1 and others. Nice. The only car make my arms skaking too strong is Formula one , and yes.. there is the possiblity to decrease the main road in the file. I get the Thrustmaster DD T818 10nm. As i said i like quite strong driving (because automobile sport is a sport). For sure i don't understand about ALL the values in the file but most of it, and as i don't work for the moment i had time to spend many hours each days to test. I modified values in the whole file not just in the beginning. You certainely right, certain value may not coherent but i have tested several files from the forum and i like mine. a lot :)
     
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  2. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi Joaquim, i see that you drive with TS PC. Like me during 2 years. You have to try the boost option in the control panel. It is so much more "powerful" ans also "contraste" between low and hight forces. I tested once without this option and it had no flavour...
     
  3. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    It's a little to late for that. I have a Moza R12 / FSR Formula Wheel coming in the next few days (I hope!) :)
    But in the custom files world, I'd rather change the response curve at the end of the file, that would make more sense to me (so I can control it better).
    Anyways, thanks for the suggestion.
     
  4. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Yes i know you are expecting the Moza R12. I had to do my choice between Moza R12 and TM T818.. I choose the T818. I am very intereseted about the 'granularity feeling' that you can control in the driver of the R12. Hope you will give us a feedback. Just to warn you, when i switch between ts pc and T818, the custom ffb file wasn't good at all with the new base, no feeling at all. Now it's much better. So don't be scared if something like that happen ! :) (by the way, i have the same wheel as you, the 488 Ferrari. i love it)
     
  5. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Just tried the boost option on TS-PC but... no... the wheel looses all the detail and seems to be most of the time in the 80-100% force region (my feeling is this wheel base is not linear in that region, the reason why I used, for a long time, only 75% max force - it was a little less powerfull but full of details).
    Perhaps that's the reason why, when you changed, you felt a lot of difference (both in power and detail). TS-PC can deliver a lot of details with a natural feeling (been belt, the driver must already do some damping).
     
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  6. kivipallur1

    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This is exactly what I felt when I tried BOOST with my TS-PC. It just amplifies low forces and is imo mostly meant for T150, T248 and T300, which are weaker bases and have quite a dead centre. Like you said, TS-PC can deliver lower end quite well and doesn't need any boost.
     
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    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi. I'm a TS-PC owner who is also interested moving to T818 base (in distant future) so you got my attention and I checked out your file as well. And I have to admit that I'm in the same boat as Danielkart, some of you setting values seem a bit off to me as well. First of all your LFB is quite high, what I have understood so far is that low torque base users pump it up and DD users leave it at 0. I'm using 0 with TS-PC as well. Second thing, you say you like strong wheel but your in-game master gain is 25 and you lower it more with car gain at 68-78%. Other strong DDs usually have in-game master gain around 35-50, which is higher than yours.
    Then again, I have not tried driving with your file and not tried T818 as well, so very subjective opinion and take it please as friendly constructive criticism comparing it to other files. :) Most important thing is that you enjoy the game now and its ffb.

    PS! I'm really curious - what changes in the FFB for you or how does it feel when you would use lower LFB and raise gain a bit? :)
     
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    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    This BOOST function adds a lot of undesirable effects for TX and T300, don't know about the others you cited;
     
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    kivipallur1 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ok, good to know. I have mostly seen positive feedback from TX/T300 users on different forums.
     
  10. ju gnot

    ju gnot New Member

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    Hi Joaquim. Yes OK.. Maybe it comes from the ffbcustom file i used in the past. But for me, when i have driven without boost, can't feel the car at all. Anyway, lets pass to your next level, Moza !! You will have a lot to do with the full driver of Moza and the FFBcustom :) :) Hope you will enjoy it
     
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  11. ju gnot

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    HI Kivi. I see exactly your point and i think there are multiples ways to arrive to a strong and fast response with ffbcustom and the base and the game. I noticed directly when i recieved the T818 that it missed a certain "granularity" feeling of the track (what's going on under my tyres) and i found that this feeling can be increase by increase the main road value and the texture part. But, doing that, the steering wheel is so hard that you can't turn. After tests, i found that increase those value but decrease the main gain and the specific gain into the car is good balance. And now i can feel the track under my tyres much better than 1 month ago when i received the T818. I am not an engineer, and i have driven almost 2 years with one of a ffbcustom without any modifications, but when i spend money to something 'better' that the TS PC, i want it for my money :) :) I think i have done the most of the job but i continue to notice details and improve my file (i will upload little few modifications today). There are so many possibilities to configure AMS2 with this file that this is almost endless... The best approche would be that Reiza give us the bible of this file, yes !!
     
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  12. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Madness engine didn't make it easy for us, it could have the option to show a FFB bar or the existing bar/histogram (independently) outside that (horrible) tyre HUD that fill the whole screen (why?!?!?!? Reiza "fix" this,please).

    But it's essential to look at the histogram to know what the game is outputing. I guess most people don't do that and a lot is lost. How to expect something from a wheel base if we don't even know what the game is doing?
    Rfactor 2 has the same problem, we have to use SimHUB or other outside tool to see FFB signal to control clipping and many people don't know they are clipping the signal but they don't care because "I have a DD wheel base so clipping is not a problem to me" :confused:.
    Most rF2's car need adjustment that varies from 40%-70% car specific FFB, at 100% all cars clip the signal badly! A strong wheelbase only makes this worst.

    This things destroy user's experience and don't pop up often enough, it should be in game's tip.
     
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    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    There is an option to hide the tyre HUD so just the FFB info is visible. Look at key bindings and you'll see it. I think it is called 'Cycle Telemetry HUD Mode' or something like that.
     
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  14. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Motec is good for rf2 fab check since you can look at whole lap afterwards.
     
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  15. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    I knew that!!!!:whistle:

    :)
    Thanks. Big help!
    I don't know the real cost of making comments/tips in these games... so much is hidden in plain sight, so much could have a better explanation in-game. And AMS2 has a simple interface, others make their games encrypted on purpose... ;)
     
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  16. Danielkart

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    Hi guys!
    I'm currently working on the middle and the center feel.I'm also busy damping the base and damping in the game.I made fantastic new discoveries and the result turned out to be brilliant.I will therefore not withhold it from you and will post it later today.I will also give you more information about itSee you at the V300.Greetings from Daniel
     
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  17. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    It seems like Reiza aren’t the only ones finding gold
     
  18. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys!

    As I said, I focused on the middle and center with the V300.There are also new features for damping at the base and damping in the game.This V300 needs no more or very little damping, neither in the game nor in the base.In the game 0 damping and in the base between 0-5% damping.The custom file takes care of the rest for you.

    Thanks to a new sorting in the file, it is now much better to drive with little or 0 damping.These changes also made the cars extremely stable.I would like to point out that this damping reduction only applies to this V300. For my old customs, or customs from other modders or Reiza's defaults, damping is still used and recommended.

    As usual, the first 3 files are for different performance ranges of the bases in order to cover as many as possible.As usual, the flat spot is set to 0.This can be changed in the file according to personal preference under (Flatspot_scale 0).My recommended range is approximately 0 - 0.05

    The 4 file is the rally file for all bases and all performance ranges.This means for Formula Dirt Cars / Cart Kross Cars / RX Cars / Trucks and for all Go-Karts. Be careful to change the IN-Game values of these cars.These values are specified at the beginning of the file.

    As always, I wish you quick rounds and lots of fun with the files


    Addendum: The customs are all based on the V70 and V70 Plus files



    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V300 from Daniel for all bases 8-25Nm

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V300 from Daniel for all bases 5-8Nm

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V300 from Daniel for all bases 2-5Nm

    Best of Karsten Hvidberg V300 Rally by Daniel for all bases 8-25Nm
     

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  19. tk84

    tk84 Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Interesting to see what this 0 damping file is like.. ..so far have found your files suit my preferences the best (especially now you are using same wheel base as me)
     
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  20. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's a fantastic base :)I run this file with 0 damping in game and 0 damping in the base. And then is this custom file unfold full potential . Of course, this may look a little different with other bases
     

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