Automobilista 2 November 2023 Development Update

Well the proof is already there to show that the recent new competition addition to RF2 is a genuine success and it's not even in the public build yet, agree with what you like but the participation numbers in that beta don't lie.

 

Understandable focus.
But as I and by garantee also our Mistar Simioni understand it the issue is basically the chosen network model.
Easy to set up but not so easy to get functioning reliable when people does show up

 

For me a proper single player experience is a priority in every racing game, online is second fiddle and with many racing games i never touch it.

 

Can't wait for the historic Tracks.....

 

rF2 is my "main" sim.
Yet... (numbers tell another story)


There's something about AMS2 that keeps me coming back...
I can mention two important aspects that, go figure, have nothing to do with physics, cars or tracks:

1. Weather
   Been able to simply jump into the sim and with no fuzz been able to race anywhere with real weather condition is incredible.
2. FCY
   Yes, many avoid that entirely, but for me, it's a must - every little thing that emulates reality is an immersion factor. It's and implicit randomizer

I use AMS2 mainly to race offline but I've participated in online championships without problems. It's not an iRacing ecosystem, but we can race online!

My own custom FFB file (see my signature) makes AMS2 a lot more interesting to me as do third party content and Reiza should support community efforts to create them.

I'll say, Reiza kept going and don't reject or misinterpret our own wills, desires and dreams.
Good companies are made by good/demanding customers - they provide companies targets, new ideas and more customers!

Obrigado para o Renato e restante equipa.

 

So I will throw my two cents in about MP in AMS2 and sims. For me the "bugs" and "reliability" for AMS2 MP are highly overblown. To me the issue is more about the UI and lack of "official events" directly through AMS2 and not an third party website (LFM being the exception) as well as a meaningful trophy/licence requirements to give players a sense of "leveling up".

Not sure with the P2P Reiza is seemingly stuck with if official events can be done beyond a third party website or not but if not then I think Reiza really needs to push Just Race, Race Craft Online or hopefully LFM as "their" official events and promote them each week as they did with the TTOW. They need to create an official championship, daily races, weekly races with different license levels and allow players to "unlock" certain combos.

Currently when you go into AMS2 multiplayer it is just a bunch of "random" lobbies with random car/track combos at random times. I don't think AMS2 should get rid the of easy and maybe best of all sims in creating your own lobbies and races but hopefully in the future we will have a section for "official AM2" events and then user created races and leagues.

Everytime I log onto MP it is just a mess of unknown races and leagues with random rules, race lengths, aids and it is just a mess and a new UI could really make a big difference IMO.

 

Absolutely. I don't blame people for wanting multiplayer to be better, but I think things should be put in perspective.

For the better part of the last 15 years online multiplayer has been the biggest focus in sim-racing and gaming in general. It's both what most people want and where the money is it. A lot of good has come from that, but it didn't come without cost. Devs were (and still are) Incentivized to put more time and resources into multiplayer experiences than singlepleyer ones, and sadly that led to AI falling behind while everything else became more advanced. AI falling behind meant that most folks who open up a racing sim and wanted to try out an offline race were doomed to a frustrating experience and thus putting them off from offline racing. It isn't a shock that a lot of people hate offline racing when you realize that up until Iracing introduced AI the best offline simracing experiences you could have were from games made in 1995-2005.

Simracing really needed devs who both have a focus on the offline experience and are given time to flesh it out. Both Iracing and Reiza stepped to the plate, showing what offline racing can be. I'm glad that the dark ages of offline simracing is finally coming to an end.

 

if you ever tried to run a league you wouldn't say this, the system is compltely unusable for leagues, with desync issues etc where different players have different levels of weather, abs and tc disappearing bugs, players getting booted out, other weird random stuff happens too, i had a few ppl one race just come up as "unknown" (i think that was what they showed as) before instead of their username,

for organised multiplayer it's not usable, for quick casual random races it is

 

I think this part is amazing, congrats!

 

Now that's what I like to read

 

Maybe I'm a little limited, but I don't understand people who compare themselves. Because AMS2 does the same thing as iRacing, or Rf2 or ACC?? If you like iRacing, use iRacing. If you like RF2, use RF2...I think it's not exclusive to use one or the other. If I want a beer, I don't buy ice cream pretending it's beer. Like I said, I must be limited and can't understand the comparisons. We can use all of them or just one without pretending that they are similar.

 

I think AMS2 is in great place now and it's getting better with every update.

I have tried many racing games after AMS2 came in 2020. Examples being AC, ACC, RRE, rFactor 2, F1 23, GTR2 and many others. I always come back to AMS2.

Well, AMS1 was my go to racing game before AMS2 and before AMS1 it was Stock Car Extreme. AMS1 gameplay hours is like over 1250, AMS2 about over 560 hours and Stock Car Extreme is 270 hours. It all started in 2015 when I tried SCE demo and I was sold...

Still waiting patiently the update...

 

Boss, what a speech!

Man, ^^^that's^^^ great to hear! Really really happy for you guys out there, keep em monies coming

God, ^^^that's^^^ SO OVERWHELMINGLY GOOD TO HEAR! I was thinking the other day "there's no chance no one has or will approach them, what'd they do, hope they don't sell". And you don't sell. W. Just W.

I was going to say, this is exactly the way people (maybe just me) would like to hear from the devs. There's already enough of AI-generated-copy-paste-bull****-corporate-speech from bigger companies, and in racing press, where most people are afraid of speaking from their heart because they're afraid of responsibility. Man I like to hear alive person talk like a human. Respect+++ definitely.

 

Or better, play all different titles you own there and then. There's no need to play solely that_one_title and nothing else. Nobody checks that

 

Does anybody here say that its impossible to use more sims than one?
But beside of that I agree with you

 

What I'm trying to say is not that you can't use one or the other. Quite the opposite. In diversity the virtues of each one are appreciated. What I'm trying to say is that there's no point in trying to bring things from one to the other. Each sim has their own thing and we can enjoy them without trying to make them the same. Sorry for my bad English, I use a translator.

 

Your translation is fine

 

As someone who has been vocal about wanting to see MP improvements (not usually here), and who wrote a long post in the beta forums asking what the vision is on the MP side, I don’t see how anyone can dispute that this has been fundamentally well addressed by the dev update and Renato himself.

I don’t think it’s wrong for the scope to not be to create the same systems we see with other sims. I feel this is a title which as a sandbox, gives us as users the freedom to create the experiences we want. It’s why I’ve only every really pressed for stability, and that’s likely to arrive with the update as outlined with the logging tool. Very excited about a more robust dedi in the pipeline. I think that once these are rolled out, MP usage in leagues will see an uptick as many have tried previously, even if they haven’t stuck at it.

I also reject that the current state is unusable. We recently did a full length race FUSA23 champ with 20-26 drivers in each race in MP, and whilst there were some issues encountered (25 drivers running the full 500 miles at Indy is a huge stress test of any sim’s system, complete with FCYs), overall it was a positive experience for all involved. Issues found were reported in the desired threads.

Obviously I can’t divulge anything from the beta change logs about the update but there’s a huge amount of fixes coming which will help improve the MP experience (and SP). Some appear to address directly issues we’ve encountered in our league, which is extremely nice to see.

Fundamentally this is my favourite sim as it offers the most immersive feeling of “racing” out there, a testament to the passion of the developers and their deep appreciation for the sport itself. It’s very nice to be able to share that same passion with racers in our league. I look forward to the update and enjoying the sim even more.

 

]Fundamentally this is my favourite sim as it offers the most immersive feeling of “racing” out there, a testament to the passion of the developers and their deep appreciation for the sport itself. It’s very nice to be able to share that same passion with racers in our league. I look forward to the update and enjoying the sim even more.[/QUOTE]

This couldnt have been said any better.