Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Can I just ask what wheelbase you have?
     
  2. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have the weak G920 but the initial tests were done by about ten users who are owners of DD, High, Med and Low ... as specified currently the base is neutral and not optimized on any basis ... if you look at the values in the individual entries of the file, you will be able to realize the redundancy that characterizes it ... a symptom of lack of specific optimization ... the base starts like this for everyone, it will only be calibrated for all and then used for future files ... I won't make specific files, it's right for the user to do it with his personal tastes ;)
     
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  3. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the clarification. Will have to test it. You convinced me with the cool graphic (and the text obviously)
     
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  4. EcoBrum

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    Welcome back to the forum @Stakanov, I wish the best for you.

    I was stuck testing the basic version 1.5.5 a few months ago, but I see by comparing the files that you have made a lot of progress with the tuning and the code, what can I say, congratulations, but let's go to the first impressions on my CSL DD 8Nm.

    The rack part seems coherent to me, I can feel the car moving in all its directions and you can feel the sensation of weight and the control that needs to be applied on the steering wheel to correct the yaw, I'm testing various cars on various circuits even with steep differences in height , perhaps it is just a little rubbery but it is very informative even on cars normally characterized by a strong pendulum effect.
    The road is well represented, perhaps a little more texture and a little less bump but nothing that I can't reduce in individual values, the curbs on the other hand seem perfect to me, I've never had such a pleasant sensation on them.
    Finally for the effects perhaps only the scrub is a little noisy in o.s. and I'm undecided whether to lower the fx by reducing all the effects (I don't want to lose the road noise or road_sleep_feel) or whether to reduce only the scrub so as not to lower the remaining sensations, but I think it's a personal taste and not to be generalized.
    You can see my settings in the signature, I remain curious as hell about the subsequent files you want to release. I like it!!!

    PS. This summer I had some commitments and was not available but if possible involve me again in the tests if you don't do it publicly.
     
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  5. john Ellis

    john Ellis The Rectifier of Names AMS2 Club Member

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  6. Manolo

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    I only communicate to the users my values or my settings...

    WHEEL1: Logitech G29 - FFBSetting1: 95-15-50-15
    As already said, on the Logitech G29 base, a lower gain of around 80 and the use of the high LFB between 50 and 80 are very consistent. To tell the truth, sometimes it is even higher as per Reiza's advice and it is not a case. :whistle:

    WHEEL2: Logitech Pro Racing DD - FFBSetting2: 60/
    70-00/05-35-0


    Having tested these files I would not be credible in the judgment then i rest in my silence.

    I would only add that we do not need personal information on the individual items or on one's tastes but any serious inconsistencies if detected... thanks @Stakanov I join to the others for the welcome back in the forum.
     
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  7. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, I will consider reducing the noise of the scrub without changing the value in the file (scrub_scale) but only increasing the smoothness in the code in order to make it less noisy and leave the values aligned (the user who knows little where to put the hands need simplicity and logic in modifying the values)... let's see if it is a characteristic recognized by others or your personal preference, in the meantime continue using it to let the brain digest it.

    Regarding the curbs, the idea came to me after a test with the kuku ffb file which identified the increase in road noise as the kerb_surface_scale increased to high values... this went perfectly with the ATMOS because having 4 wheels I needed to reduce this characteristic, among other things since in my file the right or left curb is given by the sum of 2 wheels per side, climbing the curb meant obtaining the effect twice, first with the front wheel and then with the rear wheel. .. lowering the surface from a value of 7.5-10 to a value of 5 removed the anomaly.... and not only that, I also managed to raise the kerb_bump_scale to 5 too without obtaining anomalous peaks or impetuous jumps ... I hope others like it too, let's wait.
     
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    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you @john Ellis , very kindly... I reciprocate by thanking you for the excellent work you are doing with your NAMeS: Real Drivers files for AMS2 and MOD ... I have been a little distracted this year but your passion and effort with these files has not gone unnoticed... congratulations... excellent!!! ;)
     
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  9. AntoAntoDD

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    FILE: "ATMOS BASE V. 1.5.7.x" MOD by Stakanov


    We also don't judge because we are testers, so we only communicate our settings to the users.

    WHEEL: T300 - FFB Setting: Custom File 75 - 05 - 35/40 - 15

    WHEEL: DD1 - FFB Setting: Custom File 55/60 - 00/05 - 30 - 00/05


    @EcoBrum regarding the scrub, wait for the second file which will be released next weekend (if there are no anomalies, perhaps even earlier towards Friday), one of the pre-Reiza/Immersive implementations will be on the Scrubs, as well as in the Yaw and in Damping too if I'm not mistaken.
     
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  10. GTManSC2

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    I'm new to the forum, I asked for advice in the other forum but I had no luck, then thx for this that is very useful for me as I would like to start using custom files. From what little I understand it seems to me that the bases to initially try are those of Karsten's and then those of the Danielkart, Kuku, Aluganner68 and Stakanov users. Or do you recommend others?
    How do I move? Some advice?
     
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  11. Xzanman

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    I recommend Joaquim Pereira FullFFB v12. just drop the file you want to use in your AMS2 folder in windows documents. each time you want to try a new one you will need to overwrite the previous, or delete it and the next time you start the game the default custom file will be put back. I recommend giving each file a good amount of time with a few different class cars, make notes about what you like or dislike about each file, this will help you find the one that is right for you.
     
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    JP12 is good and is what I'm using now but there are other customs at the very same level (at least for my TM TX), each one requiring its own FFB and (sometimes) CP setup to fulfill my preferences.
    Stakanov files were my favorites long time ago, I'm glad he came back!
    I have great experiences too with customs from Kuku, Danielkart, Alegunner68 if I can remember well.
    Thank you all!
    [Edit] I prefer not to touch customs internals, I only work with the slides.
     
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  13. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    If you use JSGME, you can let it do the work of changing the Custom FFB Files. Works exceptionally well.
     
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  14. Nuck Chorris

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    Hey dude, might be silly question , but to use your file do i simply rename it from "ffb_custom_settings - ATMOS Mod V1.5.7.x (0-rFuktorBase)" to "ffb_custom_settings"?

    Also what does 95-25-50-25 mean? I have a G920 wheel as well and wanted to try this instead of Default + (Which I dont mind Default + tbh, just want to try this file you made) Cheers
     
  15. Kuku

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    Hey Nucky

    yes just rename ( remove characters after _settings ) it so it matches and overwrites the existing text file .

    those values represent the sliders , gain , Lfb, fx, damper.
     
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    Cheers Kuku, I imagine there is not TWO kuku's that play AMS2 in the southern hemisphere, so good to see you if you are the kuku who races and kicks our butts in ANZCRL :)
     
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  18. Xzanman

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    I agree there are a lot of good files, and that's why I suggest testing them all, giving each a fair chance. The file that is best for me, may not be best to the next person.

    I will definitely be testing Stakanov new files, they sound interesting and promising in his logic and method.
     
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  19. AntoAntoDD

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    And we are only at the beginning, the amount of code and features that @Stakanov still has to show you (in his next 5 files) is impressive.
    And this is just the beginning because from these 5 files it will be possible to make multiple combinations.
    I don't want to spoil anything but each subsequent file will have more and more lines of code and functionality and very little tuning.... ;)
     
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  20. Manolo

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    On a Logitech base (G923-G920-G29-G27) 95-25-50-25 is a possibility or the less lively and less dampened 95-15-50-15.
    The damping on the low range can also be eliminated but try with your tastes, indeed if you want to verify a use more in line with Reiza's advice also try 80-80-50-25 or 80-50-50-25.
    In future files they will be an increasingly feasible possibility! :)
     

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