Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    WIP ... 3rd files next week if I stay alive :) others in the future...
     
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  2. EcoBrum

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    This BASE + Partial Old_d_Raw seems to me less irremant and grumpy than the BASE one and therefore the cut on the lateral and longitudinal forces is felt, but I want to test it well, thanks for this you saved me the weekend. ;)

    In the meantime, what should we expect from this next NDef_imm ?? o_O
     
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  3. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Optimization for the single car ... the immersive Reiza profile (unlike RAW) has variables that are linked to FFB settings for each car (I do not refer to the physics that is the same for everyone and each car has its own physics) ... I am referring to the FFB, I explain better, each car has its own level of scrub, engine, yaw, damping etc ... ;)

    Furthermore, in the immersive there are many more characteristics, some already operated, others prepared and others still not activated .....
     
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    Even if I have an excellent equipment I have to admit and tell you that I am really denied to make changes on the settings or set the files with my harmony. :(
    But this FFB file likes more and more because despite being clumsy I can get what that I want with the cursors at stake and then if I want to lower an effect down that value and I find my balance. ;)
    More I can't do, but now I'm happy with this game. Thank you @Stakanov
     
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  5. 0ct0

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    Just tested your latest with the new Simucube beta firmware...It's shaping up nice! keep up the great work..
     
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  6. AntoAntoDD

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    You are working without touching the values of harmony in the least, but the more implementation code and the more the waters are calm ... I confirm that for now we have only good sensations, both here, on me on a DD1 basis and on the steering wheel of my son T300. ;)
     
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  7. GoobMB

    GoobMB Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Wow. I came here to say something about the Atmos file I just tried, to realize the discussion exploded with new builds B). Anyway, I had a file from last week and it felt absolutely brilliant. I used my favourite testing toys: Porsche 962C and Porsche 911 GT1 (latest beta build).
    Your ffb has one thing which I absolutely dig: great front end load/unload feel. Holding force in fast turns is insanely great.
    The only thing which bugs me a bit is the same effect which I do not like on default profiles, but yours is much more tamed. And that is that weird countersteer effect which feels like the game has some aid enabled wanting to help me with countersteering.
    Anyway this is my new ffb profile to use, and I cannot wait to try newer builds, thanks for these!
     
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  8. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    For now, staying with the same base and the same tuning serves to evaluate the different nuances between the files, but as soon as I finish the 5 files, we will move on to optimizing the tuning and creating new variables that can be set to vary every aspect regarding the new code implemented … as the countersteer effect that is modifiable, when I get home tomorrow I'll look at it and point it out to you!! ;)
    Everyone will be able to choose the file they want among the 5 and set it as they want... :)
     
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  9. Dmand

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    Its like Christmas every friggen day here! Fantastic!
    About to try the new file
     
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  10. Dmand

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    Has anyone tried feeding a force feedback file into Chat gpt. I wish i had more knowledge of how to talk to it and get it to do what i want. I fed it parts of a file but i just don't understand.

    Might be a interesting experiment for people who know what to do with it though
     
  11. 0ct0

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    Haha, I tried that when I was tuning a custom, but it just scratched its head..
     
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  12. Dmand

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    I figured out that its a good way to learn what each of those lines can do for the force feedback. It does a good job at explaining what effect it could have, but yeah its not capable of generating its own custom but if you feed it some lines and specify what you want from it, it does suggest some values.

    So at the moment, it is somewhat useful, i feel like it has potential though, especially for understanding whats in the file
     
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  13. GoobMB

    GoobMB Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So, I finally gave it a go. A question: how high damping are you using? I mean ingame? I have CSL DD, 8Nm, and even with damper set to 30 the steering has quite big oscillations when I get my hands of it... and with smaller rim diameter it is even quite strong with just one hand off. Tried Grp C, GT1, P1 gen 2, Formula Ultimate Gen2, Grp A.
     
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    Hello guys!
    Due to the new adjustment of the tire resistance it was necessary to adjust my file.That's why I'm posting this V3000

    As always, optimized for the following bases:

    Optimized for Simucube 2 Pro (25Nm) (My reference base)
    Optimized for Simucube 2 Sport (17Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R21 V2 (21Nm) (My 2nd base)
    Optimized for Moza R16 V2 (16Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R12 V2 (12Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R9 V2 (9Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD1 (20Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD2 (25Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec CSL DD Base (8Nm)
    Optimized for Simagic Alpha Mini (10Nm)
    Optimized for Simagic Alpha (15NM)
    Optimized for Simagic Ultimate (23Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek LaGreat (12Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek Forte (18Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek Invicta (27Nm)
    Optimized for VRS (20Nm)
    Optimized for Cammus C15 (15Nm)
    Optimized for Cammus C12 (12Nm)

    Have fun with it

    Daniels Custom File V3000
     

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  15. newtonpg

    newtonpg Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you guys!
    Totally offtopic and only a suggestion to all custom creators.
    Could you consider naming a custom file including the respective game version or build they are created for? Or include that info inside file?
     
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  16. ConCarRace

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    Good morning everyone, I'm new to the forum and I'd like to start getting closer to custom profiles, I've seen and read the last around 100 replies in the discussion, but I have to tell you that I wouldn't know where to start first.

    The link to the @ricxx user's recap discussion on custom files was very useful, but now how do I find my way through this forest of files?
    Your Custom FFB File Collection

    I think I should try them all :eek: to get an idea or is there a shortcut? o_O
     
  17. Racinglegend1234

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    IMO try them all to find the best one for you
     
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  18. Stakanov

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    For the moment the indications are always to lower the damping as much as possible, paradoxically the damping above 25 dampens the characteristics and effects or the curve of the same but generates movement... keep it low and lower the effects for now but rest informative.
    What you detect in the file is normal now because it is not optimized and only standardized (all 3 versions are the same), so it is currently voluntarily wanted because the file is over-seasoned to highlight its defects and is tuned with high bumps, high effects and high suspensions, so what you detect for now is normal, most of the oscillations come from the movement generated ... as soon as I finish the 5 or 6 files we will arrange them and try to level out what is needed.
    So what you detect is practically true but desired, indeed, if by holding it with your hands you can control the DD steering wheel with high gain then it's a good start... for now I ask you to focus on the information received and whether it is coherent.
    Have a good day.
     
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  19. ConCarRace

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    ok it promises to be a long day of testing with continuous restarts of the game, but it is not possible to load the profile without restarting every time? o_O
     
  20. chonk

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    No, best not to do it like that unless you really have the time. It's better to just pick one spend sometime with it over the course of a few days. Compare it to the defaults, make some notes about it, mental or otherwise. Add them to the file itself. Maybe make some adjustments to a file to see if you can dial in/out some of the features that aren't quite there for you, and then trying out another file.

    Jumping from one file to another in quick succession just doesn't work. You don't give your brain a chance to adjust and you miss a lot of the details.
     
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