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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    This is a good reference by @Peter Stefani which shows that I mainly get the heavy forces which makes the lower forces be felt less.
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  2. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I won’t be modifying or tuning this atmos file , i have no need , as perfectly happy with what i have .
    Just interested in if adding more segments to tyre resistance can be beneficial.
     
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  3. Danielkart

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    I'll say something about it soon because I adapted my next file exactly with these tire resistances. No, not with Stakanov's idea, still with Karsten's 5.01 but with my individual changes it will be my own interpretation. More information to follow
     
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  4. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Nobody MUST tune it, I just need some feedback that is kindly arriving and if it doesn't come from those who don't want it then amen... in any case the file just goes balanced by me not by other ... at most the solution is simple, i bring the values back to the original one and we're done, I'm fine with it and I have my starting point ... changing the scales has enhanced some aspects and covered others ... but maybe you're right I should have keep it to myself now ...

    This evening I have some commitments or rather personal problems to resolve, so please put the test file aside for a moment and pick it up again tomorrow evening... If you don't want to waste time I'll do it myself ... thanks anyway
     
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  5. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Stakanov you misunderstand me, I won't say anything about your file or your ideas because it is your creation. And I know how your boys can react and I have absolutely no desire for it to end like it did 2 years ago. I don't need this insults and aggression anymore, so I will absolutely refrain from saying anything about your files. I will only say something about my file because it is also about the tire resistances, nothing more and nothing less
    THANKS for your File
     
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  6. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I think you plagiarize things... I wasn't talking to you but to Kuku who was rightly responding to others, and I wasn't criticizing him either, I just think it's enough to say I won't do tune it... but then what aggression are you talking about on my part? But are we out of our minds?
     
  7. Dmand

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    I didn't mean to start anything here. I just thought the tradition was that someone releases a file and others use it as it is or tune it and share with others what they have done with it.

    I wasn't around in the glory days when this thread started, and i have been enjoying files from all the creators and also the sub creators that modify the files of others to suite there own tastes like i do.
     
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  8. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    In the early days we were only dealing with one source and format from Karsten, and that’s what i stay aligned too.

    Sub creations with heavy modifications fall out of my preference of function and trying to work on something that’s so different in settings and execution while trying to maintain high levels of competitiveness with a busy community racing schedule is difficult as it requires a lot of re-adjusting and time .

    But it’s always interesting to follow developments and see if there’s something new that can be applied to the original design.
     
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  9. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Kuku but in fact you are right, I was replying to you but you didn't say anything that you couldn't say and neither did I....
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    Frankly, I don't even want to understand this madness of certain people, because the situation is serious and shameful and I reported it.

    Someone can't see ghosts, or be paranoid... you can be wrong but you don't talk to me about other people and accuse someone of assault out of nowhere or imply that I'm part of it or that I'm a gang leader, I repeat out of nowhere... the stupid discussions here everyone has had them, but they are not portrayed as crimes and in order to do so anyone is involved unfairly... and it is also said that they are referring to phantom events that occurred 2 years ago and not with me among other things... I think that someone has problems... in two years he could say that I made this discussion... or he could say it to someone else accusing him of assault... among other things two years ago he said "son of a good mother " to others and it seems normal to me that they responded ... but I, who had something to do with it, would actually say that I was silent far too much as well as absent ... You're done with me I won't tolerate anything else ... AMS2 it's a game you are reality!!!

    "I know how your boys can react and I have absolutely no desire for it to end like it did 2 years ago. I don't need this insults and aggression anymore."
     
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  10. formulafan1994

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    hey stakanov, i was wondering if your ffb file would work for the fanatec dd1 podium series... i mean, i heard that you were still working on it, and there were some files missing from it. heard good things though, that your previous files were good.
     
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  11. Manolo

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    How dare you make up this story that there are groups of people who are angry with you for no reason whatsoever, when no one here has quoted, spoken, written, involved and/or had references to you!!!

    You are addressing me (or a group) unjustifiably through Stakanov who you also accuse, what should I answer you today? How should I treat you with a bouquet of flowers? I am not (as you define us) Stakanov's "horseman", I am only what 2 years ago (due to a discussion where you made a bad impression) called "son of a good mother"!! What did you want me to answer then? That I love you?

    In another two years, will you say that today I or we stalked you? Or that you are a victim of us violent villains? And what are you?

    These are called free insults and it's you who uses legally relevant adjectives such as "insults, assaults, gang leaders" so I'm following the report of Stakanov, you were looking for an excuse or a reasoneven if I know that nothing will happen today like back then... and the only one having fun here is you,
     
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  12. ViperMan3

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    Using the ATMOS file and I'm quite impressed with the FFB I get on my Logitech G Pro. One tweak I'd like to make is when getting bumped by other cars, is there anything I can chnage in the FFB file to enhance the bumps? I like to know when I'm being pushed around by the opponents. Thanks
     
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  13. ViperMan3

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    Typo: should be "... fr_details_pos ..."

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  14. EcoBrum

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    @Racinglegend1234 and @Dmand for try lowering master rack to 0.75 this should reduce the sense of weight of the rack (if that's what you're looking for because I wouldn't want it to lose fullness) and thus free up some resources, then correct the code forgotten by Stakanov by typo indicated by @ViperMan3 ... just to summarize did you leave the speeds at 1.000, 0.750 or 0.500?? and prefer rack at 1.00 or 0.75?

    @everyone, we are just trying to calibrate a file with different proportions from the original file and which will be the future basis of other files, and it must be done now here or elsewhere, it should not be done later, I hope there is a pleasant environment because frankly I don't understandwhere certain frustrations arise, thanks to those who continue to give feedback.and thanks also to those who don't do it and remain equally friendly because there is no point in being something else
     
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  15. EcoBrum

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    @Danielkart when I say frustrated I'm referring to you, I apologize if it wasn't clear but the content of what you wrote doesn't make sense, it's surreal (as well as being serious) and I'm not defending anyone and I'm not part of any group and I don't think that your like to me refers to an interest in the file.
    You did it all yourself have the kindness to make this a quiet place and non-toxic. I want to talk about ffb stop, the problem is yours but let's move on.and I think it's everyone's will.;)
     
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  16. AntoAntoDD

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    I think it's just a problem of calibrating the various parts of the file with the new values and without saturations occurring which in this case inhibit the surface of the flat edges with some tracks and cars. Once this is resolved we can move on, let's hope we succeed otherwise we insert the proportions and scales of all the other files and move on. For now set only if you like in the main dials the rack to 0.75 and no 1.00. Thank you
     
  17. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    I have done some more testing. I switched the rack to 0.75 and noticed I had put one of the velocity values to 1.5 instead of 0.5. I tried the other values and both rack and velocity on 0.75 felt the best. The loss of grip feeling felt like it was there for the front, but sometimes it didn't feel like it was there for the rear though
     
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  18. Racinglegend1234

    Racinglegend1234 AMS2 wiki founder AMS2 Club Member

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    Further testing shows maybe the high velocity stiffness is too much and kerbs make the ffb clip when going at medium speeds and higher (F-U G2 as a reference). So a speed multiplier seems to be too high
    Edit: the clipping occurs at speeds greater than 160 km/h and I need to lower the FFB gain to less than 70% in the F-U G2 and Cadillac LMDh car to not get clipping through high speed corners
     
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  19. CrimsonEminence

    CrimsonEminence Administrator Staff Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Clear you personal issues via PM guys, use the forums functions it provides if you can't get along, but also on the other hand refrain from accusations and distorting past occurances! It simply doesn't belong here, back to topic.
     
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  20. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    If only we had a problem to clarify and and if only he had sent me a message of doubt too ... but there were no problems before and there are none now, have arisen only unfortunately insulting accusations.
    I think I will activate the ignore user function because it will probably be the only solution to ensure that abusive situations no longer occur ... thanks anyway and sorry for disturb.
     

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