Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Thank you

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He appears to have recently moved to a VRS wheel, but I found his final Logitech file over at Overtake G920 Custom FFB file for AMS2 NOV 30, 2023 update 1534.2451

 

Just tried this out, been running # NAME: Rack_Force for months and really happy. But heard great things about JP v12.

Overall i'm very impressed. Weight transfer is a lot more pronounced, something that I loved from AC but not as easy to feel in AMS 2.

Trail breaking is a lot easier, you can really feel how much the tyre is loading up and what amount of grip you might have.

I really think you can drive a bit more proactive instead of reactive, its easier to predict what will happen.

Only thing I can comment on is that kerbs does feel a bit odd compared to other ffbs, it kinda grips the wheel quite hard almost like a magnet that sucks you in. I would be happy with just some rattling that indicates you are on a kerb.

But hey man what a great baseline! Great work!!

 

Thanks. See this.

 

Hi @Alegunner68, what you feel at this moment is right, for now I need to keep the scales a little oversized during the development phase and therefore you feel some aspects or effects that are a little pronounced for now... for now I need it to better understand where any possible factors may come from anomalies when I introduce the new Reiza code in the rFuctor (in parallel with these files I am making other implementations for future files) ... this helps me to understand better and more easily if I have to intervene in the new code, in the Karsten rack or in the effects ... in in this case you can already greatly reduce the rumble of the curbs by bringing the kerb_surface_scale from 7.5 to 5.0 ... tonight I will already publish an advancement in version 1.5.9.2 with other small changes that reduce not only the curbs but also some bumps.

EDIT: Further information, you will feel the curbs in the ATMOS slightly different from the original rFuctor, there will always be a bit of resonance because on each side (right and left) the effect will be given by the sum of the sequence of the front wheel and the rear wheel to follow ...obviously this must be adjusted to the right level that provides information and not disturbance.

 

Sounds just what I need. Will try out, thanks!

 

I am a big fan of your file and IMO its the best of the custom files. My question is are you continuing to develop the file or have you taken it as far as you can?

 

I'm upgrading my home cinema system, so simracing took a hit (hardly touched my rig in the last 2 months).
I'm still not happy with my file (or AMS2, for that matter). Still something missing, still not getting the feel I want.

 

Exactly my thoughts, AMS2 is almost there on feel but just needs that extra bump, I don't know if it will be possible by a custom file alone.

Goodluck with the home cinema, hopefully will see you return to AMS2 soon, surely the 1.6 update will have you back in the rig.

 

is there any custom FFB file out there where you can feel that drop off in understeer like the default + setting? all the Custom ffb files i've tested gets heavy when the car starts understeer which is unrealistic

 

Try Mr. Stakanov's latest ATMOS in the NDef_Imm version (i.e. infiltrated by Reiza's default+ code) for me at the moment it's the only file that I'm passionate about to the point of making me move away from the original Reiza profiles, it's very promising

 

I've seen a few files that have stuff like general grip drop-off, or specific understeer drop-off values set up for easy editing.
If you haven't tried to edit any FFB files then it's worth opening them up and messing around with them, not just for drop-off but to try and make other things suit your tastes better as well.

 

There is a lot of talk around these new Atmos files and so I was intrigued and came to the forum also to get some spoilers on the future 1.6 update.
The new features that I read in the chengelogs of these files are remarkable and the first tests I carried out are aligned with what is indicated. I feel very comfortable, I notice the variable load on the wheels, the constant presence of the rear and the impression is finally that of moving a rectangle on its center and not a point constantly oscillating between right and left. Control is no longer a struggle to maintain balance but it is logical and predictable and when you slip everything becomes lighter rather than harder, finally, even if trivial, if you spin on track or on the grass the steering moves accordingly. Maybe it's a little too exaggerated on some effects (pronounced curbs and perhaps a few too many jolts) but I'm enthusiastic about the first feedback I've received so I leave an up and encouragement to the creators of this work.
Keep up the good work and thank you all for your efforts for this community.

 

NICE.
I've tried most files but keep coming back for more.
I have been knocking loads of time from my laps around Green Hell just lately.
Especially the Mini JCW 7.21.260 down to 7.18.970

I really am a Happy Little Piggy ;@)

Thank you
I'm gonna name my next Home Brew Ale Gunner68

 

Good evening guys, for now I'm doing alternative tests on other files, I haven't tuned more the previous 1.5.9 files very well also because the work on the future beta version of the game is evolving and there's little left for the final step to 1.6.0 and therefore to start having the first indications about the future that are a little more concrete, it would be useless to tune and then further retune and release 10 versions of the same file...
Having said this, considering the kind requests and needs of the users (thanks for the feedback), I only changed two variables:
- I lowered the kerb_surface_scale from 7.5 to 5.0 which regulates the kerbs/curbs a little downwards (I inform you that they will still have to go down further to reduce the rumble but I would like to do it either with changes in the code or with other settings, I don't want to touch the smooth so as not to lose informativeness we'll see... )
- and also I reduced the micro_bump_scale from 0.50 to 0.25 so that the car feels a little less bouncy.
Given the slight changes, I take advantage of this publication to correct some notes, the recommended values of the cursors especially of the pure BASE file which does not require high Damping as in the other files with Reiza Implementation and then I corrected a few symbols in the code which in any case were irrelevant in the output and in sensations.

Finally, some silent users of the forum have asked me privately to republish the updated version of the ATMOS Initial_Ndef file which I did not publish in version 1.5.9 because I considered it redundant. They tell me that it may be useful to have that interlude too, so here are all the updated files version 1.5.9.2.X


ATMOS 1.5.9.2.x BASE
ATMOS 1.5.9.2.x BASE + Partial Old_D_raw
ATMOS 1.5.9.2.x BASE + Initial NDef_imm
ATMOS 1.5.9.2.x BASE + Partial NDef_imm

Tests obviously carried out on the latest Beta of the game in version 1.5.9.2 and on the official 1.5.6.3!!!!

Barring any glaring problems, while always listening to all your needs and/or inconsistencies detected, I will modify the file after the release of version 1.6 so as not to clog up the forum with temporary versions not suitable for the final version of the game and so as not to confuse those users who are not practical in the use of customized files.

I hope you like it and as always I hope I haven't made any typing errors... Good evening everyone.

 

Thank you for your work

I do have a question - As a g29 user would i benefit from your ffb setup when 1.6 drops? Or should i stay with the older setups?

 

The answer is "YES, if you like the file now I don't see why NO tomorrow" and this regardless of the fact that you use it now on 1.5.6.3 or on future game version 1.6.
Tomorrow if you don't like the sensations of the new file, nothing will stop you from copying the same values from old to the new file or alternatively to continuing to use the old one.

 

Thank you

 

Every file has its strengths but also weaknesses. Even defaults are not perfect and far from reality. Realism is interpreted and perceived differently by everyone. For me personally there is no perfect FFB in any simulation but Ams2 gives me the best feeling at the moment (personal taste) It will always remain a simulation because many things are missing and it varies according to the personal taste of the users. You can only try to choose the best one for yourself and, above all, have fun with it

 

G27 user here. Using the last two files of the 3 I observe a drop in performance almost like drop in FPS. When switching to old files or Default + the sim is fast again and no slow performance in car. are these files perhaps too detailed for basic G27? Too much data to process? any advise would be appreciated.

 

Here on both G29 and Logitech DD Pro no problem, check that there have been no recent changes on your PC (recent updates or other) or in the in-game settings (increase n. of cars, etc.), the code is a little longer than the classic rFactor one and no longer than the Reiza code, among other things the versions of the files that we use to do the tests (which include many more lines of code) have a quadruple size of 280 Kb compared to the 80- 90Kb of those you use...
But if you think this is possible I invite you to report it on the appropriate forum, it has happened in the past and it could happen again in environments that are not always replicable.