Automobilista 2 May 2024 Development Update - The Road to V1.6 Pt1

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, May 31, 2024.

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  1. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It will not last for a 24 H race even if they change engine 3 times during the race
     
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    Ettore Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's obviously good and bad at the same time. You get to play a bit earlier with the toys but it's obviously often along with quite a few things that are either heavy WIP or have some substantial issues. It's great to see things from insides but it's not the Eldorado everyone out there thinks of
     
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    What do you mean by this? Revving this hard is not viable for long races you mean?
     
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    Very rarely in the last 30-40 years a high revving car has finished, let alone win. Except maybe the Wankel?
    Chief example the 550 Maranello which struggled a lot.
    The level of stress of an engine is more than proportional to the rpms it runs.
    To be more precise the higher the so called average piston velocity the higher the level of stress in the engine. There is a long list of engineering reasons but chiefly that average piston speed is what translates in more than proportional inertial accelerations on it and therefore stresses on connecting rods, crankshaft, all of the associated bearings and all the way up to the chains or gears driving distribution the valves and their (air?) springs.
    Those inertial accelerations happening mostly at discrete points in the crank angles (basically they max when the piston is that the top and bottom end) are also the driver for vibrations within the block and its components and anchoring supports: obviously a V12 is a lot more balanced than a V8 or a V10 but there are still 12 discrete peaks of acceleration hitting the system for every crank 360 degrees which are "fatigue stressing" the structure and the devices (bearings, chains etc.).
    It's highly not recommendable to increase rpms in a car for the Le Mans 24H especially where you are driving vast majority of time flat out at high speed and therefore at max stresses. 7.5-8k max (8k is already a lot), beyond that it is an extremely uphill battle with reliability

    EDIT: the only engine I can think of is Peugeot in early 90s but it was in a context in which everyone was forced to use F1 derived 3.5L and soon Peugeot was racing without official manufacturer competition so they most likely were able to dial power to where it was safe
     
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    Frankly the input of the beta testers IMHO has been less in this cycle than before (not that it's a bad thing) because it's been moving at a very fast pace and I think Reiza might want to keep it more focused in house, than having many people giving different opinions and reports, causing more confusion.

    It's cool indeed having new content earlier, but that doesn't necessarily make the time playing more enjoyable per se, at least in my case as I try to focus on the changes if any and if they are working as they should.
     
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  6. Iuri_Rein

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    new text cooking.... ideas
     
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  7. Turbo Granny

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    I've seen your point about high revving engine and I agree, but certainly they are tuning the road version of th engine down, it makes what, 1000 hp and 11k rpm? It doesnt have to make all that to race in hypercar, they probably race it at 8k rpm or something.
     
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    Small tip, try English mate, if you’re serious about any kind of discussion. Google translate, and copy/paste; although your post is lousy anyway, you might even get an answer.
     
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    The Alpine A442B won the 1978 Le Mans 24h. As far as I know, it was equipped with a 2.0 V6 Gordini engine capable of revving beyond 9,000 rpm. Also, the Acura ARX06 can rev over 9k RPM.
     
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    Register on a forum and this is their 1st post... Just stopped by to vent their discontent.
    No "Hi, such and such", nothing.
    No inquiry into anything or why things are "late"...
    I don't get it anymore, maybe I'm just getting old.

    Edit: And then proceed to be outraged about getting kicked from said forum at some point... And complain about fanboyism on other platforms.
     
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  11. Eric Rowland

    Eric Rowland Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    12 cylinder engines at LeMans were both successful and reliable...
    Ferrari, Porsche, Matra, Jaguar, McLaren, BMW, Audi, Peugeot...
     
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    Not to mention even the 911 has been pushing and breaking 9000 RPM on NA flat 6s that're being dragged to over 500 horsepower. Not exactly F1 level insane revs, but for one of the most successful and reliable GT3/GTE cars it's certainly not low, especially next to a ton of cars with V8s and turbocharged 6 cylinders that are mostly between 6500 to 8000 RPM

    So a probably ~6.5 liter V12 pushing 10 or 11k? Definitely not that crazy for a top level prototype that only has to make 670hp in practice
     
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    I hope reiza release in future, a tutorials and opening Modding for scratch mods cars/tracks.
     
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    Honestly, pathetic from this guy. Don’t even know what his intention was, but nobody can take him remotely seriously.
     
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    You've left a poor impression on the community.jpg
     
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    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.....
     
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    I mostly passed every step of the grief over the Part 2. Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. This support group helps me alot...
     
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    Yeah this forum is good support group. But remember it`s still 51st of June so we`re on track for that late June dev update ;).
     
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    Remember that he maybe meant June 2025
     
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    Freedom of expression is very important here. Congratulations!

    It would make more sense to announce the update as soon as possible instead of leaving people speculating just to keep them interested.
     
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