Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Partially solved the issue after setting FFb following the guide on Thrustmaster website for AMS2 .

https://youtube.com/shorts/a-VDz8dAuHM?si=ZED8eIKCIzhQeTFM

 

These vibrations are far too strong. As far as I know, the settings for a T818 are very rudimentary and simple. Try these settings

TM panel:
- force 100%,
- damping 5%,
- linearity 0%,
- fashion extreme or sport

In-game:
- Gain 60-65%
- LFB 0%
- FX 15-20%
- Damping 0%

See my custom on page 444 (V6000 extreme3) then you shouldn't get any more vibrations. If you continue to have these strong vibrations then this is a dif
ferent problem

 

Thanks very much . I just did a race on LFM with Oreca 07 at Mosport, and with these settings and your custom file , the situation is much better .

 

I've been using the latest @Stakanov Ndef_imm file for a while with 1.6 and made some changes to reduce the sudden front grip loss on turning.
#SLIDE/SLIP Control
0.050
0.550
0.725
0.925
0.925

 

is there a parameter for curbs in your file? could you please point it out to me? thanks

 

Completely unexpectedly and by chance, a new version is created due to a beautiful discovery I made with V6000 extreme 3. Since I don't want to withhold it from you, I'll post it tomorrow. A small procedure with a great effect. See you on V6000 extreme 4 and more information

 

@Danielkart Hey, sorry to ping but i would appreciate some help. Ive been using v700 for awhile now in 1.6 and during the beta period of 1.6. I'm running v6k3 now and I like it more except the auto centering strength when the car oversteers feels too much for me and prefer the v700 file for that part. Can you direct me to where in the file i can adjust this? Im not sure if its over_steer_scale or not.

 

Hey buddy, nice to hear from you
I sent you a personal message

 

@Danielkart @Stakanov
in your file, which is the part of the code that handles the curbs (not the bumps)?
Thanks

 

@Stakanov
Hello, I use your last file, the immersive one with a simagic alpha mini. I like it but I notice big différence of ffb between cars. For exemple, with F3, I put 68% gain and it's fine, but with catheram, I have to put 100% because it's very very light, is it normal to have so much différences?
Thanks

 

Hi guys!

After only one week I will post you the V6000 extreme 4. By introducing the Beginner-dd bases into the belt file on the V6000 extreme 3, I noticed a few things. I therefore do not want to withhold it from you and share it with you. I'm leaning back to 0-1% damping and 0-1% friction in the base settings. Why? Now it is the case that damping makes your wheel tough and sluggish and the friction will delay or even stop the self-centering of the steering axle to the zero position. But these measures to increase damping and friction are sometimes necessary to make the center tighter and reduce the "dead zones" or to reduce strong vibrations (swaying of the wheel). This is exactly where (tighten_range) and (tighten_falloff) come into play. I have noticed that this compensation of the "dead zones" (originally mainly used for gear bases) also works great with dd bases without causing other anomalies. This implementation in the DD file reduces "dead zones" in the center of the steering axle and makes the center firmer, tighter, and more precise without getting the drawbacks of damping or friction. This is a big advantage and will make the feeling on the wheel even more intense and immersive



You can read the additional improvements and changes of V6000 extreme 4 further down in the changelog, all other improvements from V6000 extreme to V6000 extreme 3 remain as before. I also try to give you very precise recommendations for the in-game settings and base settings, so that you get as much feedback as possible, but as little clipping and anomalies as possible. The goal is to adapt your base and your in-game settings as perfectly as possible to the V6000 Extreme 4 file and to use the potential of your base as much as possible. However, I would like to point out that these recommendations of mine do not automatically have to work for previous files of mine or other files or Reizas defaults.

Changelog V6000 Extreme 4 :

1. Added a new bases to the dd file (Thrustmaster T818) and Conspit Ares/Platinum
2. New base added to the dd file (Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5)
3. Adjusted in-game settings for V6000 Extreme 4
4. Adjusted base settings for V6000 Extreme 4
5. Power steering in DD file reintroduced and slightly increased
6. The "dead zone" has been compensated in the DD file in the steering axle (The middle is now firmer, tighter and more precise)
7. Minor adjustments in both files


The 1st file is for dd bases (and as an exception for Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5) and was adapted and tested with a Simucube 2 Pro and a Moza R21 V2 :

Optimized for Simucube 2 Pro (25Nm) (My reference base)
Optimized for Simucube 2 Sport (17Nm)
Optimized for Moza R21 V2 (21Nm) (My 2nd base)
Optimized for Moza R16 V2 (16Nm)
Optimized for Moza R12 V2 (12Nm)
Optimized for Moza R 9 V2 (9Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD1 (20Nm) (My Former Base)
Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD2 (25Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec CSL DD Base (8Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport DD Base (12Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport DD+ Base (15Nm)
Optimized for Simagic Alpha Mini (10Nm)
Optimized for Simagic Alpha (15Nm)
Optimized for Simagic Ultimate (23Nm)
Optimized for Assetek Prima (12Nm)
Optimized for Assetek Forte (18Nm)
Optimized for Assetek Invicta (27Nm)
Optimized for VRS (20Nm)
Optimized for Cammus C15 (15Nm)
Optimized for Cammus C12 (12Nm)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T818 (10Nm)
Optimized for Conspit Ares (10Nm)
Optimized for Conspit Ares Platinum (18Nm)

Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5 (8.5Nm Belt-Base)


The 2nd file is adapted and tested for belt/hybrid bases and beginner dd bases with a Thrustmaster T300RS:

Optimized for Thrustmaster T128 (2Nm) (Hybrid-Base)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T248 (3.5Nm) (Hybrid-Base)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T150 (2Nm) (Hybrid_Base)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T300RS (4Nm) (My tested base)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T500 (5Nm)
Optimized for Thrustmaster T-GT / T-GT II / TS-PC / TS-XW (6Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec CSL Elite (6.3Nm)
Optimized for Fanatec CSW V1 (5Nm)

Optimized for Fanatec CSL DD Base (5Nm)
Optimized for Moza R5 DD Base (5Nm)
Optimized for Cammus C5 DD Base (5Nm)


General information:
All these recommendations and suggestions and these 2 custom files are based on my personal taste and my interpretation of how FFB should feel with all the compromises that a (simulation VS reality) entails. It is also based on my experiences with many different systems (bases and immersion hardware) and of course from nice guys based on their feedback, many thanks at this point to these guys. In addition, it should be very easy even for beginners who prefer a custom file, but don't feel like and have time to deal with FFB or all the complicated settings. Then just take the file for your base and set the recommended settings, that's it. Whether someone likes it or not is another subjective thing, if so it's good and if no it's good. There are enough other options with different customs or the defaults of Reiza so that everyone can find their preferred settings.
The bases are very different. DDs are fundamentally different from belt bases. The forces, processing and output of FFB , the rotation speeds , the torque slew rates ..... and much more. In my opinion, these many differences cannot be solved with only 1 custom file. That's why I have these 2nd files, because they are very specific and precisely tailored to the systems (bases).
However, there are exceptions in both files. The "Beginner dds" with 5Nm are included in the belt file and the Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5 (8.5Nm belt base) is included in the dd file. Here the forces are more important and decisive than the other factors


Notes for advanced custom users:
Always use 100% vehicle-specific FFB for these V6000 Extreme4 files, otherwise you will change the file and you may clip or lose FFB. The most important slider for these 2 files is the IN-Game Value (FX). The recommended value should not be exceeded, otherwise clipping and other anomalies may occur. On the other hand, this value (FX) can be reduced at will to find your personal sweet spot. Especially interesting if someone is on the road with motion or butt kickers or VR or other immersion hardware and it can then lead to a sensory overload. I know people who then reduce it, I personally ride with the recommended FX values because I love to feel a lot in the wheel and thus in my hands, decide according to your personal taste. Finally, a recommendation from me: Reduce the throttle sensitivity and the brake sensitivity in the in-game settings, I have reduced both values from 50 to 0. Ams2 is the only simulation where I leave this linearity, but with it you achieve much more feeling on the brake and on the throttle and the dosage will be much more precise. Good examples are GT3 or GT1 or GroupC cars without ABS and TC, it will give you a great advantage to reduce the sensitivity . But enough of the words, it's time to play or rather it's time to simulate


I wish you a lot of fun and fast and intense laps with the V6000 Extreme4

1 File: Daniel's Custom File V6000 Extreme 4 for dd bases and (Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5 Belt-Base)

2 File: Daniel's Custom File V6000 Extreme 4 for belts /hybrid bases and beginner dds

 

@Danielkart Sorry to say, but there is no wheel base named Fanatec Csw Elite 2.5.
Its the
ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5

You are talking about their lowerend CSL Elite that only has 6Nm
CSL Elite Wheel Base

 

Thanks for the info, I changed it and will change it in the file as well

 

Hello, does anyone have an FFB for the g29?

 

Whoo Daniel this custom file is really good with my cs dd 12nm thanks a lot!!!

 

Subtle changes but really good with more feel on slip loss in my opinion. Thanks Daniel for your great work...

 

I really like your profile picture I guess because I'm Swiss

 

Excellent! This is the most twinned to physics FFB I've tried in the whole 1.6 dev cycle. It's hard to nail this, but when it happens the driving experience on AMS2 is second to none. I had some practice already with the F-Classic G4M3 at Azure for a LFM race, and just switching the file and applying some of the recommemdations improved my feeling of the limit and confidence by a lot, and my consistency on a long run was noticeably better, besides being just plainly more fun.

For the record, this is what I have and did...

OSW IONICUBE w/ Small Mige, 2500ppr (rawr I'm a torque dinosaur! )
In-Game gain: 50. FX: 15. Damping and LFB: Zero. FFB per Car defaulted at 100.
Degrees: 540 (best compromise for dualling with RBR without switching configs)
Filter on MMoS Firmware: 2. All other effects deactivated.
On Granity firmware: Inertia 1.45, Damping 0.45, Friction 0.15. 12,86A max current for max power (that's something I have kept like that for years and will continue to do so, works best for me and have my reasoning for it).

 

Thanks Gabriel!
When someone with your skills and experience says that, it's an honor for me

 

MMM interesting , thanks . Should I'll try this new file with T818 or I can stay with the V3 ?