Featured Automobilista 2 V1.6.5 RELEASED!

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Jun 26, 2025 at 7:50 PM.

  1. Alastre

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    Hi!

    Yep the days before the patch was pretty perfect as usual. Temp in the room is less than 26 i believe, i really don't know what ai can change...
     
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  2. bazziboy

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    That's a good point! Good cooling is essential, especially if you have a 'hot' gfx-card. I can only advise to get a good case with clean cable wiring and good air flow.
    As for CPU usage: I have a pretty weak cpu the I5 12400k. The advantage is that it never gets over 50C° (with a big air cooler that's hard to hear). And it doesn't seem to have any trouble to compute 20-30 AI cars. I think this game stresses the GPU much more but i might be wrong.

    May it's got something to do with windows? I heard of some problems recently with some update.

    P.S.: I have 24C° in my room now, at 13:00.
    If your system is in trouble with 26-27c° that indicates its running pretty much on its limits temperature-wise (throttling incoming) . You should check your computer case for optimizations or consider getting a better one and rebuild. Also check your coolers for dust and get a monitoring application for all your coolers and temperatures to help identify the problem (i bet its the gfx card that throttles). Until then i'd reduce some gfx settings and cut down max-fps.
     
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  3. cpcdem

    cpcdem Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's been like that since day one, the GPU throws so much heat on the system and everything is heating up. But it's fine for me, anyway with high temps its not nice to race, so the airco (and the fan) does the work well both for myself and the PC :)

    Guys, OK, I am not ruling out that some change in the latest update has caused fps drop (when using some specific settings maybe?), but it's all so common, every year when the summer comes, there are a lot of complains in many games for performance issues.

    It's not the AIs the problem, it's that AMS2 pushes a lot the CPU for the driver car's physics, no other sim simulates so much and is so demanding because of that AFAIK. But it's probably worth playing a bit with gfx options and see if one (or some) of them causes a bottleneck.
     
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  4. bazziboy

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    Did you build your PC yourself from ground up? I still think that something is wrong with your case/cooling system in general. Since you have very strong hardware it would be a real shame to not be able to use it to its full potential :). What makes it even worse is the following: A system where the gfx-card or the processor is thorttling now and then can even run worse than a much cheaper system that doesn't. Think about it: a new good case costs about 120€. If you rebuild your pc from ground up i bet it can cope with the temperatures...

    It would help if you post a picture from the inside of the case. But this might not be the right place to do so :)
     
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  5. TomLehockySVK

    TomLehockySVK Well-Known Member

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    I know there is a specific place on the forum to report bugs, and i know that the team must be aware of this one i write about, but i want to express just a bit of frustration that this AI wiggle bug is in the game for more than 7 months and still makes having good races with AI impossible. Happens even with AI mistakes set to zero, regardless of difficulty, aggression, custom AI file or not, every car, every track. Here it happened two laps in a row in the same place. Is everyone experiencing this exact same problem ?
     
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    With regards to some users reporting performance losses; we suspect the LOD fades could be triggering some performance issue in some specific systems when combined with particular seasonal foliage; we pushing to debug it ASAP but there will be a hotfix early on next week adding a Display option to disable LOD Fading for those that are currently affected.
     
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  7. Dolph

    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Quick fix: open up the case sidepanel where the GPU and CPU are and direct a regular household fan on to the open side of the case. Ive done this during the summers.
     
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    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    As explained in the AI Q&A this isn´t related to AI mistakes, it´s purely a matter of AI physics in specific classes being more on the edge than others and because of that in some specific sections of some specific tracks or given circumstances where more urgent change of direction is called upon they might be prone to losing control; F-Retro Gen1, F-Classic Gen4 and GT3s probably being the more problematic ones in that regard.

    There is no shortage of attention or awareness to it, unfortunately it takes more than knowing a problem exists and wanting to fix it to be able to actually do it. It´s easy enough to just make AI stay glued to the track if performance calibration isn´t also a factor, it´s finding the balance between stability and performance that can be especially tricky on some classes. We´ll find the right values to cover both ends as we´ve found for others, but we can´t really make promises it will be in a specific timeframe.
     
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  9. cpcdem

    cpcdem Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah, we're getting very offtopic, but in short, yes the PS is built from the ground up, and the heat is not causing a problem for me, the airco and external fan let me use it to the max. I do always get > 100 fps with high settings and triples in AMS2 with no issues.


    Yeah, I mentioned it earlier, that's exactly what I am doing :) Works a charm for me, too! Actually I use the fan also in the winter to be safe.
     
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  10. omni

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    I'm happy with the upgrade, but seems like SIgma P2 car onhigh engine sounds is missing
     
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  11. TomLehockySVK

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    Thank you I very much appreciate the open communication in this area.
     
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  12. PeterV

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    Hmmmfp... they have ruined the GT3 tires now!!! You can slide... DRIFT.... to ridiculous levels easily with no issue. And no tire heating from that either!
    It is a giant backwards step to pre V1.6 (or was it in V1.6.4?) where the tires were improved to be more realistic.

    While LMU removed 'drifting ability', AMS2 has ADDED it.....

    I only drove a few GT3's and no other classes so far. So I don't know if they did the same, or at least same 'direction' of change, to all car types.

    And then... as much as you can drift 'a mile'... a huge amount... for no detriment.... at some stage they DO just lose a huge amount of grip, with no feedback or warning and then you will lose the rear end big time. It is possible that this unfolds like this not because of tire parameters but because at car angle "X" the AERO drops off very fast (it is a Sine value per angle - and thus drops off faster and faster for each extra degree of angle). This is fine technically, but letting you slide so far, 'successfully', in the first place is what takes you into that aero loss range.
    Or, it could still be what the tire parameters do cause after point 'x' of slip. But they should have done that WAY sooner than what they are allowing!
     
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  13. Wedsley Dias

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    To @Renato Simioni or whoever has permissions to manage product information in the Steam Store.
    I purchased the "Premium Expansion Packs" and immediately asked for a refund when I saw that only a few dlc's were added and not the ones I was really interested in.
    I say this because the information on the page for this product in question is missing or inaccurate, read:

    "The Premium Expansion Packs includes all Expansion Packs and DLCs with the exception of the 5 Premium DLC Tracks (Hockenheimring, Silverstone, Nurburgring, Spa-Francorchamps & one TBA)."

    Suggestion: Edit the text and state exactly what this package contains.
    Another point: On the "IMSA Track Pack" product page, there is no information about the contents of the package.

    This information can avoid frustration or undue purchases, it would be important to revise/add.
    Thank you.
     
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  14. Eclipsed830

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    I am also having a few issues with this update... the flashing trees and micro-stutters (it seems more specifically going around corners)... but also when I do a hotlap/time trial and pit, I get new tires but it keeps the flat spots from my old tires and adds them to my new tires... so I get new shiny tires, but with my old flat spots.
     
  15. Dolph

    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    For sure the DLC texts could do with more specific info in them. On Steam I'm constantly explaining to people what pack contains what and what they have to buy to buy everything.

    Most recently I had to explain that "Automobilista 2 All-Inclusive Bundle" and "Automobilista 2 All-Inclusive Bundle for SP Owners" give you essentially the same thing, just buy what is cheaper - and the guy didn't believe me and bought the more expensive one for himself. Apparently there are discussions also on Reddit and they don't know the answer.

    I also had to explain that Formula USA 2023 is part of Racin' USA Part 3, not Part 2, because its incorrectly listed somewhere else on the internet: Formula USA
     
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    Updated Steam store descriptions & website are in progress.
     
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  17. andy_east123

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    Hello,
    The game has multiple temperatures in it's tyre modelling. The temp shown in the HUD may be the core temperature and not the surface temperature of the tyre. Certainly, driving in the style you have described will increase the surface temperature very quickly (much faster than the core temperature) and lead to the exact scenario that you have described.

    How you manage your tyres is a critical part of any racing formula, in simulation or in reality.

    All the best
    Andy
     
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  18. Renato Simioni

    Renato Simioni Administrator Staff Member

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    With regards to users struggling with massive +60GB Steam updates and / or issues with "Steam not Running" error messages, neither of those are typical or known issues and given Steam seemed to be struggling a bit on the initial day of sale it might be the installation got corrupted in some update attempt, in which case it´s probably safer and more efficient to just remove the game do a fresh install altogether; in-game preferences should still be preserved even if you do that.
     
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  19. morpwr

    morpwr Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I had this once before a long time ago. I had to switch the city you download from normally and do the update. For some reason it kept trying to download a corrupted update otherwise. Once you do it you can switch back to your normal city.
     
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    momorious Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Tried that, still same error that Steam is not running when trying to run the game through FanaLab, from the Desktop or from the Taskbar.
     
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