Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Short test of a few laps and I find myself very well with both, the FullFFB by JP v23 with LFB set to 0, rFuktor ? experimental 3.4 set to 60, I need more time to give a verdict on the best, but both are excellent, the best so far, good guys!

 

Hi Karsten,
I hit the road with 3.4 yesterday and did 30+ laps on my T300 in Laguna Seca (probably the best track to test your FFB setup) and played around with the LFB (I assume that's Low Force Feedback), please correct me if I'm wrong.

Unfortunately the LFB at any amount will give a very nasty feeling in the middle at least on a belt system. There's that tiny resistance with a ~5mm gap in between till the FFB kicks in and it really bothers me.

The reason why I'm sharing this feedback with you is to let everyone on a belt system know, the v4.1 is exactly how AMS2 should perform. Zero LFB, healthy 60 to 75 FFB (depending on the class) and no clipping. The rear feels very secure, the front is solid. Zero damper on the Thrustmaster software.

The wheel doesn't feel chatty at all, but the road effects are there. It reminds me of v70, but much improved in terms of feeling and response. I'm going to stick with 4.1 for a long time on this setup and I'll share my feedback with you once my DD is up running.

Thanks for all you do,
Sean

 

Ok, great, thx!

I will see if 4.1 can somehow be represented via the LFB as well, so it can all come together.
Did 4.2 not work as well? what issues did that have vs 4.1?

 

I am sorry if this has been asked before, but I could not really understand it from the description on this page, what is the difference between the Topspeed 1 and 2 files?
Also, I have Clubsport v2.5, but I run the force quite a bit lower than the full 8.5 NM, do you recommend to still use the files for DD bases (as you suggest) in my specific case or rather the belt/gear/beginner DD files? Thanks again! Keep it up
Finally, may I ask why you recommend setting FEI at 60-70%, and not higher?

 

I never miss any of your files and haven't been since the beginning. It's a journey for me.
4.2 didn't feel as tight as 4.1 in my hands, I still felt that famous AMS2 sliding character, but please note I've been working a lot on each class car setup (differential, tires and suspension). I'm very happy with long session races and time attack results with 4.1.

I have a question, is there a way to modify audio files on AMS2? The curb rumble effect and RPM cutoff sound destroys the whole experience. I tried to contact Reiza about the sound issue, but couldn't find any contact information online. Those sound effects feel like you have a drummer in the back seat blowing your brain out every time they kick in. I had to turn off the surface sound completely. It's a mess, very unnatural and artificial

 

If you don't mind, using 3.4, can you try change:


(rack_lfb (blend lfb_slider 0.0 0.07))
to
(rack_lfb (blend lfb_slider 0.05 0.1))

and
(rear_grip_loss_feel 0.5)
to
(rear_grip_loss_feel 0.0)

and see if that makes a difference on your belt wheel base?
start at LFB 50% then and go from there.

I'm sorry I have not looked in to the sound aspects.

 

sure, will do

Is using LFB a must on the recent files?

 

Yes, it is not "low force boost", it is "compression" and can be used in the whole range 0 to 100. At 0 it will likely feel bad on all bases, same at 100. And then it is very subjective how you like the feeling in between there.
It is not more correct or better at 0, quite the opposite.
So start at 50.
You'll have to adjust gain after changing LFB slider, likely, but not by much.

 

Great, thank you,

Just to understand you correctly, are you referring to the slider that I marked with the arrow? That's just a picture I downloaded online

 

Yes, but remember to change to "custom" also, and put fx likely at 20%

 

Yes, always. That was just a random picture I found online

 

works best for you.

Hello!
Topspeed 2 is the successor to the Topspeed, it's up to you which you prefer.
Your base is a "special base" in my files. At 8.5 Nm, the base has as much force as a dd, but it's still a belt base with its own characteristics. Therefore, it's difficult to assign this base to one of my files. I've added it to the dds, but you could also use the Belt/Gear file. I'll list this base in both files in the future. I can give you a recommendation if you want to test both files with your base.

If you use a dd file (File 1 or File 3), I would use these values for in-game:

In-Game:
Gain 70-75%
LFB 0%
FX 18-24%
Damping 0%

If you use a Belt/Gear file (File 2 or File 4), I would use these values for in-game:

In-Game:
Gain 50-55%
LFB 0%
FX 18-24%
Damping 0%

As you can see, only the in-game value (gain) changes between the files. Just test it and you'll feel what works best for you

 

FEI increases the graininess of Fanatec bases and can cause high-frequency noise. It's like a large amplifier that increases vibrations. I even recommend 20-30% FEI for a dd1 or dd2 (which I used to have). Of course, it always depends on the file used, and it can vary greatly. And also on your personal preferences

 

@Danielkart thanks mate! I will try the various files and see whether the FEI setting matters a lot. Currently I have the most difficulty in feeling/catching sudden oversteer.

 

One more question if I may, you suggest 0% damping here, but in the file you suggest 5%, what is right/recommended by you?

BTW can you change custom ffb files (ie replacing one with the other) while being ingame or do you need to restart?

 

Just tried various files, but the belt files create too much spikes/rambling of the wheelbase on curbs, even with lower FEI values on the CSW 2.5. Now going to try the DD files.

 

This is a mistake I made in the Topspeed 2 file and the recommendation for your base. A belt/gear base doesn't need damping; these bases already have enough mechanical feel in the steering axis due to their specific design. You can set damping to 0, but of course, you can also reduce it slightly if you prefer.

 

Sorry, I meant 3.4, updated in my post too

 

Just a heads up, today I was practicing w a friend in estoril testing some stuff w the GT3 gen1 cars with experimental 3.1 and switching from default+ to 3.1... suddenly after going a lot over big kerbs w big vibrations, I stopped receiving gyro ffb (i still had some bump feel) but the wheel was very light and the signal was almost inexistent when turning the wheel. (for a second almost felt like inverted ffb)

 

Good info, I think I know what could cause this in a rare case.
Will add a fix, however it should be very, very rare.