Crash to Desktop when loading into circuit

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  1. Chicken Out

    Chicken Out New Member

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    I have now discovered that if I load up AMS with the wheel off, then in the main menu turn the wheel on and refresh devices, the Fanatec CWS V2 appears in the list. I load up my preset and enter the game with no issues. I have tried this multiple times and it worked, for me.
     
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  2. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Interesting. Gonna try that later tonight and report here. Thanks, @Chicken Out!
     
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  3. Domagoj Lovric

    Domagoj Lovric Moderator Staff Member

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    Can you post trace of that? I can see where do things go wrong for guys having Fanatec wheel / Thrustmaster pedals, but if it works this way, courious to see what goes on there.
     
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  4. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Unfortunately, loading the game with the wheel turned off and then turning it on did not work for me like it did for @Chicken Out. Only time I could make it load the track properly was by having the wheel completely turned off. Here are some traces I captured. Hope they help.
     

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    BadEngineer, Dec 3, 2019
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  5. Chicken Out

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  6. Domagoj Lovric

    Domagoj Lovric Moderator Staff Member

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    @Chicken Out i see a difference from your earlier trace files to this last one. Can you confirm this is actually set as:

    Thrustmaster pedals in older trace you posted were reported as "T-Pedal" (my guess is as standalone pedals)

    In last trace is says Thrustmaster T300 racing wheel - so my guess is pedals are connected to wheel?

    This last case to me sounds like there is no need for disconnecting the fanatec wheel prior to launch.


    @BadEngineer Only thing as a temporary measure i can suggest is try running with "Auto steer rotation" unchecked in controller options, or disconnecting thrustmaster shifter.
     
    Domagoj Lovric, Dec 3, 2019
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  7. Kevin Cox

    Kevin Cox Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Just to confirm when I was getting my CTD I'm using Fanatec DD1 wheel base with the Porsche Rim along with Thrustmaster TH8A shifter. The pedals I use are the Heusinkveld Sprint pedals.
     
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  8. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'll try that tonight and let you know. I am curious, though. Does this mean the game is trying to set the rotation of my Thrustmaster device and failing because it's a shifter and not a wheel?
     
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  9. Domagoj Lovric

    Domagoj Lovric Moderator Staff Member

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    That seems to be where stops generally happen.
    In your case it doesn't always stop there, evident from log when turning off Fanatec features it crashes elsewhere but absolutely unrelated (so something about input devices tread that runs separately).

    @Kevin Cox Many thanks for information, I thought your case is different but definitely something is going on with Fanatec wheel and Thrustmaster non-wheel combos.
     
    Domagoj Lovric, Dec 4, 2019
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  10. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I tried running with auto-rotation disabled for the wheel (through game settings), TH8S shifter still plugged in and the game still crashed. Forgot to capture logs but I'll try to get them tonight for both the "shifter plugged off" and "auto-rotation disabled" use cases.
     
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  11. jual

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    in my case it's the same, crashes anymore.
     
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  12. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Here are the logs I promised. Plugging the shifter off resulted in the game loading the track just fine, but having the shifter on and turning off autorotation for the wheel still resulted in a crash.
     

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  13. Chicken Out

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    I think it was quite possibly the Thrustmaster T.JR12 USB adapter I was using at the time and when it CTD I swapped to Thrustmaster wheelbase.
     
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  14. Kevin Cox

    Kevin Cox Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Well was okay earlier this evening but now I got CTD. Here is my trace file.
     

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    Kevin Cox, Dec 6, 2019
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  15. BadEngineer

    BadEngineer Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Any news on this? AMS is my favorite sim and I have been unable to play since the crashes started to happen...
     
    BadEngineer, Dec 23, 2019
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  16. Bumble

    Bumble New Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Same for me.
    Fanatec CSW2.5
    Heusinkveld Pro Pedals
    Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter
    Crashes every time if the shifter is connected, never crashes without it
     
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  17. Matus Celko

    Matus Celko Active Member

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    I'm having the same issue, sometimes the game loads into the track, but when I click drive, it CTDs. Most of the time it CTD at the end of track loading
    Fanatec CSL PS4
    T3PA Pro via the thrustmaster Adapter
    Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter

    I can load into game if my wheel is turned off
     
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    Matus Celko, Jan 14, 2020
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  18. Kevin Cox

    Kevin Cox Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    CTD again for me. Only way I can get game to load is unplug my Thrustmaster shifter.

    I've now uninstalled AMS as I don't see this being fixed anytime soon and will soon be moving over to AMS2.
     

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    Kevin Cox, Jan 14, 2020
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  19. Matus Celko

    Matus Celko Active Member

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    When I switch to version 1.5.25 using the steam beta tab, the application runs fine.
     
    Matus Celko, Jan 14, 2020
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  20. Kevin Cox

    Kevin Cox Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I am so disappointed that there has been no word on fixing this issue. :(

    @Domagoj Lovric
     
    Kevin Cox, Feb 22, 2020
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