Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

There's a big bad bug in it, fixing & updating in a min.

Will update the function one more time later, btw, it's not perfect yet, in my rush I didn't construct it fully as intended. Anyways, the values should still be possible to adjust.

Fixed attached:

 

Karsten, it did fix, I went back and compared the 3 Silver Bullets, and the best feel overall I get from the first one. The dips and swings of the chassi feel more balanced, scrub and kerbs as well.

Just did 3 laps with the superV8 in Curitiba and got the 3rd best time online (im not fast!). But I do get a really good feel for what car is doing and road as well in that one. I hope it helps.

 

Did you mean the fix did not work?
You liked the one that does not auto adjust to the cars the best?
Or do I get it wrong? To me the last one feels best, for sure, but prob. depends on both car & wheel base...

 

Yeah, I was thinking about that, in the pits and on track the first one feels better. Whether it has the biggest range varying from car to car I have to test more to be sure cos my impression is that raising LFB and scrub to 2.0 did the trick now.

I felt like the last two didn't have much difference between cars, especially the last one which feels a bit better after your latest fix. By the way, I'm not selecting specific values for CSW by choosing it, just modifying parameters directly.

 

Ok, but you are using the last one right? Cause it does not have the wheel base selection in it any longer, just making sure?

 

what FFB settings In the game you drive with the custom file from Karsten. I feel almost nothing compared to the default with my Podium DD1

 

LOL, thought you didn't want to go to "the ugly place" Karsten? Yet here you are claiming your new function is superior than the Sigmoid based one, yet you clearly don't even understand how that even worked. not only that you release 3 attempts each with bugs that give a lower output than default. Again.

If you had understood my Sigma based function you would have noticed that it actually maintains a perfect 1:1 ratio to a preset point when the sigmoid takes over. Not "almost perfect" like yours. The curves actually look quite similar up to a certain point when you have to cut yours off otherwise it gives a decrease.

 

I never looked in to the Sigmoid function other than knowing how a general Sigmoid looks & the solution felt exactly like that to me, so are you sure?

I would not have gone the custom route if it didn't(to me).

Sorry to have worded it like that, just rushing. Not too much time.

I would be happy to take a look at the details of it to make sure if I am mistaken.
As said, went by feel & how they generally look & it matched. I prob. am wrong then.

Cheers

 

Dont think so, using this one.

 

oh, ok, did the last "fixed" one feel bad & can not be adjusted good?
(post #429)

 

"Felt exactly like that to me" - Still karsten shade huh?

Yes, here is a comparison scaled to match the maximum:


Yours in red. The dotted green line is the linear part before the solid green sigmoid part. You seem to be aware of the other issue with your function so I won't comment on it further.

 

That sounds very weird?
I use pretty normal settings, maybe except for recon 1.
I also use a low LFB of maybe ~10.

 

Yes, it's just weird.. I must have felt wrong...
Anyways, will plug in a new function later.

Maybe when I pasted over the Sigmoid function I made a mistake, did not really look in to it, as I said. Just felt very weak at the low end.

Sorry, I can see I did no better than yourself from the other day.

 

The thing is, out of the box this one was really good, easy to set up in-game and recognise what was missing in the file. So I think it took me about 5min to have it ready to play.

The second file feels similar but weaker, which makes the pendulum sensation stronger and all cars light when in the pits.

The third one never felt right to me, and I put some time going through the file and changing things and couldn't make it work, not better or to the level of the first file.

 

my settings in the game are (55/0/0) DD1 profiles selected. The AMS2 default FFB setting is therefore much more pronounced.

 

Ok, in the new fixed file, did you try to "up" the center_momentum variable?
I think it is at 1.5 in the file.

 

Ahhh, the LFB Reiza problem.

LFB at 0 causes an error, please try & set it to at least 1.
It will change any custom file dramatically

Also, I would use at least some FX. I have it at 50%.

Cheers

 

Gonna try to turn it up to 3.0 later. Been following your conversation with Nus and what you said earlier about being a quick fix (the last file), so I'm gonna wait for your next one and probably stick with SilverBullet1.0 fo now. Thanks mate.

 

Tried both files and they are great. I wished Reiza allowed more than 1 named file to have multiple setups, and custom variables exposed in the UI. Great effort though, hopefully Reiza will take some queues from these, at least for some more 'standard' flavors.

 

This seems to work to get around the lfb 0 issue:

(<output> (if (smooth (max 0.0 (- 0.99 (abs (lfb 1.0 0.1)))) 0.5) <value if lfb 0> <value if lfb gt 0>))

You get the odd tick if FX is set very high but it will certainly stop the bug from being noticed.