Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    To me it still lacks:
    Better scrub, more pronounced kerbs, LFB on details and bumps, so they both don't disappear outside of center.
    Without those it feels kind of dead.
    Even more it lacks friction and momentum resistance on steering angle changes. The steering feels like a lose rubber band around the center, specially at low Lfb, which is really preferred on higher end wheel bases.

    I think they will soon start work on these ffb issues as v1 is out. These things are only minor on top of what's already there in default, technically.

    Reiza devs have access to far more information than custom ffb allows, so my big hope is that in 6 months it will feel much better using default than what the current custom ffbs do. Then the custom ffbs might be considered too much hazzle for very minor changes.

    But until then I will keep using custom ffb files.

    Cheers!
     
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  2. Lars Mars

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    Where did you post this V3 version?
     
  3. Ernie

    Ernie Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    2nd post of this thread.
     
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  4. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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  5. F.Santos

    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hey man, so I managed to download the latest BETA with the V1.0 content, but I cant download the full release cos my internet is horrible.
    Did a few laps in Bathurst and Curitiba FFB feels weaker somewhat in general, but nothing else, Im using the last Nus-HeavyMessing before the V1 version.

    Which one are you using, the same? Are you losing ffb? around the lap or straight out of the pits?
     
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    Hello Karsten,

    I have been away from the game in the last couple of weeks and just upgraded to 1.0 last night. I was also slightly disappointed with the default FFB so I am using your custom file instead.

    On this point below, which parameter would need to be modified to further improve. The Friction?something else more specifically?

    my TS PC wheel is say mid to high end belt driven wheel so I could indeed increase further the friction from the 0.04 you set in your file, right?

    Even more it lacks friction and momentum resistance on steering angle changes. The steering feels like a lose rubber band around the center, specially at low Lfb, which is really preferred on higher end wheel bases.
     
  7. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I'm using the latest heavy messing file, cornering ffb feels excellent but hasn't got much straight line feel, whereas the silver raw file has excellent straight line feel but rubber bands in the corners (mostly left handers for some reason).
    I'm going through the thread to look for some older ones to try again.
     
  8. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hi NoLive, welcome back then!

    Yes, you should be ok to adjust that higher. Maybe try something in the interval 0.07 to 0.1, if you feel it too light.

    And if you did not yet, then go for a ride in that new GT4 on Bathurst!
    JC it's awesome! Did a multiplayer session of 24 ppl yesterday & that combination is just a killer :)

    Cheers!
     
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  9. Nolive721

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    @karsten

    thank you sir, yes I will do so tonight:D
     
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    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Ok, so we are in the same file then, strange I don't think i noticed that. I will try it again later and let you know, but other than the lighter ffb, apparently it feels fine.
     
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    ok

    did just that, taking the Ginetta to Bathurst and it was great indeed.I increased Friction to 0.07 and now I think I am good to go.

    But having said that, I decided to take the Gin to Monaco next and oh boy what a blast it was:cool:.

    I dont know if my heart is speaking here because I spent almost 4yrs of my automotive career there but it was one of the best Simracing experience I have ever had.

    and then silly me, for the sake of comparison, I took the same car on the same track in Monaco in PC2 and despite all the tweaking I made on my Jake spade Custom FFB, clearly AMS2 is in another league now, for sure.

    Hope Reiza can grab some big Sales from a wider users base so to keep on developing the damn thing, but honestly I dont see myself playing much of PC2, RF2 or AC in the coming weeks:p
     
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  12. Karsten Hvidberg

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    Right! Bathurst & Monaco are incredible!
    I'm hoping long term they'll move to a cheaper version than i(ce)racing, but a long term continued dev plan just the same.
    SR's and all.
    Would be awesome with a serious contender & with that GT4, Monaco & bathurst, I think they've proven they can deliver. Laser scans no strictly required the way some of these tracks look & feel!

    It's hard for me going to those other sims as well as they all feel kind of numb compared now...

    Monaco must have been a great experience?? Nice weather & sea! I've been there once or twice, but that was more casino-driven :)

    Cheers
     
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    yes best working place in 21yrs of career. and I have been traveling a lot;)
    without disclosing too much, best part is that we employees had also some short access to a lounge in an Hotel in the uphill to the Casino.
    it was still the era of the V10 F1s so you have no idea how incredible the sound was:eek: and driving your own car around the city and in teh tunnel where basically these nutts F1 drivers were doing 200mph+, what else can I say:p

    anyway, back to topic. Reiza really well done with physics :hurrayreiza: and Karsten and others who contribute, big thumb ups for bringing this fantastic custom FFB into the loop:D
     
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    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @Alegunner68, did not notice the problem you mentioned, did you modify your file at all?
    If you wanna send me a copy and your in-game settings I can try on my and see what happens, also maybe Nus is planning to release another file for the V1.0 version that could solve the issue that you having.

    @NuScorpii any chance you might be uploading a new file for the V1.0 or heavy messing still working well for you?
     
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    Thanks @F.Santos , it's the silver raw v3 on page one, i didn't mod mine.
    65/40/50 or thereabouts.
    Try the Lotus 72 around Spielberg 1974, or any track really and compare ffb on left and right turns.
    Pretty sure it's not my wheel as the heavy messing file works fine.
    I look forward to your results!
     
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    F.Santos Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I have that file, I loaded and there's definitely something off, I have that file as version 9.4 of the Beta, so a lot of the tyre adjustments, rack and ARB done by Reiza now makes it impossible to use that file for me. It could take me hours to get to a good playable level.
    I think noticed what you felt a bit, but much worst in my case was the noise/vibration I'm getting around corners making it really difficult to drive.

    I'm gonna try the new heavy messing from @NuScorpii. NuScorpii sorry mate I didn't see that you updated the file post in page one, and thanks for another file.

    @Alegunner68 depending on how this file feels I might go back to some of Karstens old files, if I find anything good I'll give you a shout. We seem to be going in the same in-game ffb direction, my silver raw I had at 60.35.45
     
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  17. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Looks like they don't suit our wheels anymore, Karsten tried to help me earlier to make it better but no luck.
    The heavy messing file definitely works better on my wheel.
    If i could have silver raw straight line ffb with heavy messing cornering ffb, that would be ideal. Lol
     
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  18. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    It's been updated since then.
     
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    https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-txt.7132/
    60/20/40
     
  20. F.Santos

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    Damn, I just went through my archives. Fair enough gonna try to download it again then! thanks mate!
     

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