Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

yes best working place in 21yrs of career. and I have been traveling a lot
without disclosing too much, best part is that we employees had also some short access to a lounge in an Hotel in the uphill to the Casino.
it was still the era of the V10 F1s so you have no idea how incredible the sound was and driving your own car around the city and in teh tunnel where basically these nutts F1 drivers were doing 200mph+, what else can I say

anyway, back to topic. Reiza really well done with physics and Karsten and others who contribute, big thumb ups for bringing this fantastic custom FFB into the loop

 

@Alegunner68, did not notice the problem you mentioned, did you modify your file at all?
If you wanna send me a copy and your in-game settings I can try on my and see what happens, also maybe Nus is planning to release another file for the V1.0 version that could solve the issue that you having.

@NuScorpii any chance you might be uploading a new file for the V1.0 or heavy messing still working well for you?

 

Thanks @F.Santos , it's the silver raw v3 on page one, i didn't mod mine.
65/40/50 or thereabouts.
Try the Lotus 72 around Spielberg 1974, or any track really and compare ffb on left and right turns.
Pretty sure it's not my wheel as the heavy messing file works fine.
I look forward to your results!

 

I have that file, I loaded and there's definitely something off, I have that file as version 9.4 of the Beta, so a lot of the tyre adjustments, rack and ARB done by Reiza now makes it impossible to use that file for me. It could take me hours to get to a good playable level.
I think noticed what you felt a bit, but much worst in my case was the noise/vibration I'm getting around corners making it really difficult to drive.

I'm gonna try the new heavy messing from @NuScorpii. NuScorpii sorry mate I didn't see that you updated the file post in page one, and thanks for another file.

@Alegunner68 depending on how this file feels I might go back to some of Karstens old files, if I find anything good I'll give you a shout. We seem to be going in the same in-game ffb direction, my silver raw I had at 60.35.45

 

Looks like they don't suit our wheels anymore, Karsten tried to help me earlier to make it better but no luck.
The heavy messing file definitely works better on my wheel.
If i could have silver raw straight line ffb with heavy messing cornering ffb, that would be ideal. Lol

 

It's been updated since then.

 

https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-txt.7132/
60/20/40

 

Damn, I just went through my archives. Fair enough gonna try to download it again then! thanks mate!

 

It's down at the moment for bug fixing so I'm hoping it'll sort out my problems when it's done.

 

Karsten Hvidberg I tried your last file "Silver Raw 3.1 - Momentum Rack 2.0" (July 3 2020) with my g920 and I found myself very well ... I set the recommended values and then I only increased the gain to have a slightly more marked effect ... Then 100-20-50 ... I really liked it and despite the steering wheel being lighter throughout the rotation, but it remained very coherent and informative ... being lighter and more manageable, I also had a lot of fun on the v8 car that until now I hated for the pendulum effect in the weight transfers now controllable ... thanks for your job

 

G29 FINDINGS and FILE
First of all thank you Karsten and NuScorpii for their great work.
Regarding my findings, the most controversial is this, avoiding modifying the min_force, at least in the g29 it induces a notching behavior (even as low as 0.03) in addition to generating instability in the straights (an almost square wave when the wheel is released) .
The file that worked best for me was the NuScorpii file, just modify the prominence of the kerbs a little up to reduce the FX value (as it is necessary to use a high LFB value, the vibration was increased too much by the textures of the terrain ).
I use these 100/100/25 settings.
The route to get a universal file, at least in my opinion is not to modify the min_force, but rather that the LFB slider need to be used as a real Min Torque slider (as in rFactor2, ACC, etc, etc) not like the setting min_force that works strangely.

I have attached my edited configuration file and I hope it will be useful to those who have a G29, I only had to modify a little the value of FX +/- 5 depending on the type of car.

English is not my native language, sorry for how strange it must sound xD

 

Karsten sent me the file and I had a go at it, he mentioned it is the new file, but you said you still having that issue ah?
Sorry to say but for me, it's working great, I guess as you said, it could be an issue with your wheel. Try a different sim I guess and check the pins inside of the wheel where it plugs to the base maybe. I had one of them breaking 6 months ago and my FFB kept on failing until finally it stopped working and the pin fell off, I could still use it but I had no FFB anymore.

Hopefully is not that! Good luck and if you need any more help let me know.

 

Glad it's working for you. Weird thing is the heavy messing ffb is great, just the straight line feel is lacking for me.
What driver and motor firmware are you on?

 

Latest of both I believe: W Base Firmaware 672
W Base Motor Firmware 22

I'm finding this file has a better scrub, straight line and kerbs feeling than heavy messing. But heavy messing has a decent balance between them too, but better feel of track elevation and car rack weight from car to car.

Try that see if it works, is Karsten's latest I guess, slightly modfied by me and updated by him --- in-game I'm using 65.45.45

 

Still getting the numbness, and the default ffb is next to useless.
I see a few others are getting the same since v1 as well.
Anyway I'm reinstalling now as a last resort, ffb is fine in other games.
Apologies for clogging up this thread with my woes, hopefully all will be well.

 

I share your pain. I had a custom FFB file that was absolutely spot on for me prior to v1.0. Now , not so much. I now have this brutal kick back correction on oversteer that flings you in the opposite direction to contend with. Had this a few releases ago but some custom FFB file tuned it out somehow. I can't find anything that works now. I'm on an old CSW v1. Its either rattly, grainy or vague. I'm sure we'll get there eventually but I am surprised how much the FFB seems to have been effected from the last EA release to v1.0.

I hope it settles down to a point where all your tuning and tweaking doesn't become redundant on the next patch release.

 

Funny it seems you forget this game is still in development, and i hope they don't stop with it.
So far the default FFB made all these custom-files obsolete for me.
Give the default FFB a try, unless freaking around with this file is part of your game

 

Heavy Messing 2.5 Beta

I've been playing a lot of ACC recently and that too has quite a defined centre like rf2. Feels really good so I've been working on trying to get that centre feeling in AMS2 but without losing the natural counter steer you get from weight transfer when transitioning to oversteer. It's quite a simple change in the end, just changed one of the functions a bit and added a new parameter to control it:

(tightness 0.5)

Increase to get a tighter feel, and decrease to make looser. Range 0.0 - 1.0

@Alegunner68 This may be what you were asking for before. Let me know if it gives you a better feeling.

Edit: Removed beta file, latest can be found here.

 

See above

 

Thanks i will, though i think you misunderstand me, the centre feeling i mean is the feel of the road under the wheels. Your latest files are great for cornering feedback, but lacking for my wheel in straight line road feel, there are lots of deadspots on straights when the wheel isn't being turned.
Raising min force adds notchiness and doesn't fix the deadspots.
It's there a setting i can change without overwhelming the cornering ffb?