Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. sherpa25

    sherpa25 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    What values you reduce them to? To test.

    @NuScorpii, I couldn't find where you mentioned this last, but which again are affected by the micro and macro (macro for bumps, micro for the grainy-feel/vibration on road, this correct)? 'detail' is bit too grainy on straights.
     
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  2. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Well-Known Member

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    Interesting graphs, but what exactly are they showing and how do you measure it? What's the tool you are using?
     
  3. NuScorpii

    NuScorpii Well-Known Member

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    Yes that is correct. In the Detailed version I have also reduced output smoothing so increasing (output_smoothing 0.0) to somewhere between 0.0 and 0.2 may help too.
     
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  5. Ernie

    Ernie Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Detailed version:
    (micro_details 0.6)
    (macro_details 0.4)

    It was just my first try and it felt better. But i'll also test NuScorpiis hint with the "output_smoothing". Besides the grainyness i liked the detailed version.
     
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    viper4r Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    As I know this tool changes nothing, it is simply a calculation tool.
    You import the test result from the tool WheelCheck there. And WheelCheck is a tool which analyses your wheel.

    It is all described here:
    Baseline Wheel FFB Values - Google Sheet & FCM. Universal
    Look at the section "FCM usage"

    EDIT:
    FCM can also do a Force test, but it is still an analyzing tool, it does not change settings in the driver or the wheel itself.
     
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  9. NuScorpii

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  10. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    The latest SC1 firmware (v1.0.22) now uses the same effect-scaling as SC2 does.
     
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  11. xkkkx

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    I test a bit, but our arm strenght isnt constant like a ruler presses on a scale. A little bit is
    compensated and higher forces are more liniar, but low forces no more noticable, deadzone increased from 16% to 30%.
    With liniar test and my hands, its little bit better as nonliniar fbb, Deadzone increased from 0% to 20%, higher forces will be a bit compressed.
    But at the end, its a litte improvement i think, not as much as the tool conveys, but a improvement.

    Values are good for own curve adjust like crazy-lut:D:D
     
  12. zero71

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    I'm testing out @NuScorpii v2.5 smooth. Took a while to get it running because the drivers on my G920 crapped out and took a few reboots and re-installs of the G-Hub software to get it back again. Then my kids came in and took over the PC. Gah.

    Anyway, I'm toggling between default on 85/75/95 and v2.5 smooth on 75/65/95 at the moment. I like how the custom fills in some of the centre feedback and smooths out some of the G920 notchiness, on the other hand it feels like a bit more work to drive the car. More testing required I think.
     
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  13. TheNormalOne

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    This is the feature that brought me the most for my Custom FFB. I use a G27 and wonder what a custom.ini completely designed for this steering wheel would look like. I think the focus of the settings is on Fanatec and DD- steering wheels, not necessarily Logitech steering wheels.
     
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  14. zero71

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    I’m enjoying the @NuScorpii detailed at 80/30/60 on my G920. Thanks!
     
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  15. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Slightly modified Silver Raw 5.0 using some alternative code from Karsten.
    Got it feeling quite nice on my wheel, but still WIP.
    65/20-30/50 fei 40
     

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  16. Aza340

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    Which wheel mate ?
     
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    @NuScorpii Which version of 2.5 are you currently using (e.g. smooth, detailed, minimal)? Just curious.
     
  19. RoccoTTS

    RoccoTTS Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I regularly tried some of the custom files in the past months, but never find something for me. I always did get back to the default settings.
    But after reading this post i did try the new 2.5 smooth setting and you are correct, this is what i was looking for.
    @NuScorpii big thanks for your work, i really like the 2.5 Smooth file.
     
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  20. 3StringCigar

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    I tried the "Detailed" and didn't like it but then on my 3rd warm-up lap I noticed I had just gone 1.4 sec faster at Brands Hatch than I had ever gone before!
    I loved the "Smooth" but as yet, have not been able to go as fast as I can with "Detailed". I am learning so much about FFB trying all these.
     
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