Automobilista 2 V1.0.1.0 & Hockenheimring Pack RELEASED - Now updated to v1.0.1.2

Agreed. Probably the best advice considering everybody has a different skill level.

 

thanks for the answer Renato, is what I always asked for here, a more friendly configuration, nobody does engineering, before doing high school, as nobody is a judge before doing it right, you need to have something more inclusive to start and with time you to make progress, I am also aware and I already said this here that there were only a few tests and a stage of stock 2020 for Studio to do something 100% perfect, of course there will be many adjustments, the game does not only have StockCar, but what bothers is a singular behavior of (me) in this forum, if it is good for me, it is good for everyone, this is very bad. [/QUOTE]

 

Or.....we just send a message to @rubarrichello and ask for some setup tips. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind......

 

My 2c:
Most people ask for realism, and it's realistic that some cars are going to be harder to drive than others. It's a sim, not a game.
As long as the majority of cars are accessible for a wide audience, then I think it's ok to have some that are very challenging if this is how they are in real life.
They should be seen as a training tool for drivers to improve their craft.

 

Conserning this then there is an interview with Nigel Mansell from a few years back at a game/computer fair after he has shown some gamers how to drive a racing sim - where he says that if real racing cars had been that difficult to drive when he was active then both he and most of his F1 colleagues would have been killed.

 

I’ve criticized since the beginning the excessive longitudinal grip of most of the tires but probably now in some cars we are on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Frankly speaking I find quite unnatural for the old stock to have massive spinning in straight line starting from standstill in third gear...

The same stands for the Ultima road, spinning up to 180km/h at the slightest lateral movement (but this car has always been a mess...).

 

@Ricardokil please read my post again.
I am not saying you are wrong and the others are correct (I don't stand for a side or another) and my posts about the current status of the game are overall more harsh than yours.

I was just pointing the fact that you are free to express your opinion and there is no need to say the others are against you because you aren't praising the car/game.

In my opinion they were just giving their opinion as you and sometimes trying to help you (some posted how to fix default setup as example) but I didn't see them trying to stop you from thinking something isn't ok with the car, we are just discussing as happens in every community.

Same as me, I never said you are wrong or the game is perfect, just pointing you are moaning not being free to say the car is broken just because someone else doesn't agree with you (in a civil and polite manner) while actually this isn't true and you are free to do that!

Please read again my post with open mind (and don't forget I am not Eng native like you) and you will notice that.

 

[QUOTE="I do try.. But in between running production, running the business, developing physics and AI it´s often hard to find the time to engage more on the forums. I´ll keep trying [/QUOTE]

Hi there Renato!

I have to say it is amazing what you guys are doing and your communication on these boards is so dedicated. Id like to say thankyou! You have just released one of my favorite ever tracks and given it to me for free because I bought in in early access, you've made most of my weekend (busy with musical commitments on Sunday), im so happy with the track I decided to start making a video about the history of the track and of course the new updates to the sim, I did'nt get it finished till tonight, and im very glad of that because 6 minutes before I started recording the main footage a notice from steam popped up about this new update, i could'nt believe it! Another one!
Over the weekend I did experience some strange A.I. behaviour whilst practicing for this video, yet recording the footage today was honestly just after the update, so I was'nt sure what to expect, and man was i happy when I got to the first corner!

The improvement is amazing, Bravo!

So for you and anyone wondering what its like now, here's some footage of the 1977 layout and the 2002 layout, a bit of history and a nod to the ledgends who raced there.

My equipment is pretty poor (im running on a potato, my sound gear is dying and I aint got no dosh to update) so im sorry about the sound and res, but if you can put up with that, it shows off the big leap forward in A.I. and there's a little bit on the end you might find interesting!

Cheers again for all you're hard work, this sim does nothing but get better, and i can't wait for the 90's touring cars im sure I heard about.

Nice one Reiza!

 

Oi mate, you've got talent! The low quality sound kind of matched well with the old school F1, vintage combo haha

 

Haha! Who'd of thought rubbish equipment would actually help! Guess its like crackle on an old L.P. Cheers mate, much appreciated!

 

Thanks for the updates! AI better now.....Regarding the Stock Car 2020's....I must have no idea because I've enjoyed them from Day 1.....not easy to drive, but thats the fun part.

 

That's a really interesting point and I've heard that type of thing before.
I think a lot of real drivers struggle to translate their skills to sims because they can't feel g forces and other, more subtle feedback sitting at a computer, where as others do well immediately.
When we switch to the opposite scenario, we've seen that some top sim racers can adapt really well to real cars. The average sim driver won't have anywhere near the bravery and feel to perform in a real car. Informative force feedback is very artificial compared to real life because it needs to compensate for what would normally be felt in a driver's back side.
It would be great to read about about feedback from the real stockcar2020 drivers now that they've driven the real car plus the AMS2 version.

 

I made three races without any problem after the update, no CTD, no loss of steering wheel.

Tried the Retros and the Vintage, I'll post comments about those cars at their threads.

 

Jack Brabham was shown GPL many years ago, and commented that it was great fun, but he didn't remember it being that hard! We have a bit of a disjoint between simulation and realism, which aren't necessarily the same, as you can't accurately simulate something that you're not using in the same way (i.e we're not in a car, feeling the forces). Jack Brabham's comments resonate today, e.g. with Indycar drivers and iRacing, so we need to make the sims feel like the real thing, which may mean dumbing down the accuracy of the physics a little. Also, 'easy' and 'fast' presets for each car would be useful for those starting out.

 

Just did a race with the Stockcar 2020 at Interlagos. What a fun car to drive and race, i really like how the car drives now with the default setup. The key is to be gentle with your inputs. It's not an easy car, but it's definitely manageable and not too difficult, even for a 53 year old with limited talent like me.

 

Not sure when it started, I think couple of patches back it was OK but suddenly even during gameplay, open wheelers look like they run positive camber, its honestly a bit funny looking. Before, this only happened during replays. Now its there all the time.

This is with -4.0 camber in front:



To be perfectly honest, ams2 is still missing a lot of details ams1 had and now some are even being taken away it seems...

 

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Keep calm!
Don't you see that these and other cars aren't finished yet? (I.E. F-ultima, FTrucks,...)
In all these cars driver still is a placeholder (position doesn't fit), no dynamic chassis (lowering with dowforce due to higher speeds), no suspension animation and so on... It still take a while, so have fun with every new feature which is implemented and be excited about coming updates