Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Hey everyone! I just bought AMS2 yesterday to give the guys at Reiza some support, in the hope that they can really bring PC2's awesome graphics engine (still my fave in that regard) onto the only physics and FFB platform that (I have heard and am starting to experience) rivals rF2. FWIW I also like ACC but I want more variety of official cars, which is one reason why rF2 isn't where I spent all my sim time. I tried iRacing on a friend's rig and I just cannot justify all that money for something that isn't superior, IMO.

I use a trusty old T500RS (Podium 2 is on my Santa list) and was pretty surprised to try Pops FFB for PC2. Engine vibration, pretty good road feel and overall it transformed PC2 for me. Is there a custom FFB file for AMS2 that has similar characteristics?

I'm going to give the Silver series a try later today and would appreciate any recs for someone who is on a T500 and is looking for the tyre feel of rF2 with the rest of what AMS2 offers.

Thanks!

 

Hi,
I use t300 and this is the best ffb I could find so far, could also work for your t500
The file is made by NuScorpii V2.5 I only tweaked :
by default this one is set at 0.00 : (min_force 0.07)
by default this one is set at 0.04 : (tightness 0.6)

Gain is set at around 60-80 depending o the car
Low force is set at 35
Fx is set at 0

If you find the back of the cars slippery when exiting a corner compared to rf2 reduce pressure in the rear tyres by 0.10Bar(something like F1.40Bar-R1.30Bar)

Edit: I also use only 600deg of steering rotation in Thrustmaster control panel or even 450deg for older cars like the Lotus or DTM cars, feels better for me.

 

Thanks @AndreiC ! I will download it later and give it a go! I was also using the default NuScorpii v2.5 file. It feels great to me, hopefully your improvements will make it even better!

If by any chance you also play RF2, do you know of a way to generate similar FFB?

 

I suspect many 'a' developer has asked the very same question.

 

Speaking of @NuScorpii, I haven't heard anything from him for some time. It's a shame he couldn't keep updating his work, as it was very good, and with the latest improvements in the New Default FFB, he probably could have made it even better. Hope he makes a return.

 

Reiza defaut FFB has come very nicely for my TS PC wheel now but i agree with above comments nuscorpii2.5 has provided me the best FFB experience in this Game

 

Hello guys,
i looking for the value, that make this extreme shaking in the FFB, what can i reduce or deactivate? I think, thats the difference between the movement of the front tires.

 

Finally the Default ffb seems to be at the level of what you used to need the custom files for.
The various custom files still have their own take or adds flavor that you might like, but I don't see them as being critical any longer. I personally still use "Silver Raw", since to me it feels the most "real" and not as game-like, but there are benefits either way, imho & I would actually be happy using Default as well or "Heavy Messing", which is also awesome since it adds seriously great twists/enhancements/adjustments to the "Default" that you might like as well. Just good options, all 3!! as it is now, great!
But really the best part being you simply don't have to care/worry about custom files any longer, unless you know what you want & have a specific taste.

Hopefully Reiza keeps this level of commitment on the FFB side up for at least 1 or 2 major ffb upgrades more & then Default will finally outshine the custom files, on it's own, rendering them not required by anybody. It seems like just a few more additions away.

Reiza, PLEASE don't step back and relax on your FFB dev now

My biggest issue left is that the cars are not so interesting to drive to me. They also bounce way too much(as many are reporting on the suspension issues).
I have more fun lapping PC2 with the "Silver Project" file, and it's interesting to feel the difference between the same GT3 cars in the 2 titles! With the silver files I can directly compare how they feel.
Not exactly sure what makes the cars more interesting to drive in PC2, hopefully Reiza will be able to correct/improve the physics so this won't be the case for too long.

 

Good post Karsten.

In one of his posts, Renato mentioned that custom FFB files may no longer work properly. I assume from your post that you aren’t of that opinion? I’m still using HM 2.3 and it still feels really good to me (better than the new default IMO).

Thanks again to you, NuScorpii and everyone that contributed to the custom file project. I feel that thanks to your efforts, a bunch of us here were experiencing great ffb months before it became mainstream!!

 

Strange, for me personally, the new default is still not even close to what i was getting while using "Heavy Messing", a lot less information, especially when it comes to road surface but a lot more clipping than before.

Maybe i should try some of the older cars today as this might be related to the GT3s and GT4s, which i tried almost exclusively after the release?

 

Right, I think the custom files work well still, just not really a requirement any longer, since the Default now deals with the biggest gripes of the older Defaults. Had I come in to the game now, I honestly would not care for any of them any longer The huge difference is gone, to me, and I'd rather spend my time on the track

 

The Default isn't perfect, yet There are nuances that might be very important to the advanced user or the user that already has adjusted to some specific sensations.

Clipping is def. one thing they should improve and I'm hopeful that will happen soon as it's trivial. It does not clip for me, only because I don't run high gain, being on a DD wheel base.
The road details are very subjective, some like them more exaggerated, some not at all. To me they felt ok. I used to like them more exaggerated, but it changed. I would think the FX slider would make them more pronounced if you push it higher?

The biggest issue I have had with Default was the EXTREME game-feel on a DD or other high end wheel base. It is still there, but the dampening does enough for me that I wouldn't look for custom files to fix it, as a gamer. Not perfect yet, but better on the few cars I test drove.

For anybody that want's to twiddle, custom files are still great. Not saying they're not! And they do provide interesting twists.

 

I have tried to compensate for the loss by adjusting the FX-slider, sadly, the results where not satisfiying for me. But maybe i just need to try higher values, will check that out later today.

As for the clipping, i am running the same wheelbase (SC2 pro) at around 15-16Nm and with a gain of 35 i still get clipping sometimes when hitting curbs, massive undulations (like in the run out zone on the nürburgring) and on corners like Frog Hollow/Sulman Park on Bathurst when the suspension compresses.

Guess the gain is still too high

 

I hope Reiza reads this

 

I think you may have misunderstood my point: I was saying that HM2.3 still feels significantly better than the new default to me.

 

But...i basically said the same.

Or at least i though so

 

I still think that both the NuScorpii HM and Karsten's Silver Raw files are better than Default, as good as default is. I find that the default is still very vague around centre for me, no matter what I change.
@Karsten Hvidberg - I just tried your latest file, and it was very smooth, too smooth for me. I have upped a lot of the settings, and it really feels good to me now. I wonder if you could tell me what setting to change to get a bit more ramp up of strength on hard turns? I thought it was (static_force_reduction), but I have lowered that to 0.1 and it seems the same as it was. Thanks, keep 'em coming, if you get time that is. Thanks.

 

Lol. I think we’re in agreement then.

 

Hi Michael,

We're all mind-readers here
I happened have the same thought & have just posted one more update. 6.6.5.9.9.9.9.9.
Hmm.. Have been running towards that 6.6.6 asymptote.. But it's beginning to look inevitable

I would be curious if you like these changes or still need to tweak those too?

Reg. your question try going to 0.0 on both the static reductions.

 

Which version of the New Silver do you use w/ PC2, v665999.9?