Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Good post Karsten.

    In one of his posts, Renato mentioned that custom FFB files may no longer work properly. I assume from your post that you aren’t of that opinion? I’m still using HM 2.3 and it still feels really good to me (better than the new default IMO).

    Thanks again to you, NuScorpii and everyone that contributed to the custom file project. I feel that thanks to your efforts, a bunch of us here were experiencing great ffb months before it became mainstream!!:);)
     
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  2. Kiryu

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    Strange, for me personally, the new default is still not even close to what i was getting while using "Heavy Messing", a lot less information, especially when it comes to road surface but a lot more clipping than before.

    Maybe i should try some of the older cars today as this might be related to the GT3s and GT4s, which i tried almost exclusively after the release?
     
  3. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Right, I think the custom files work well still, just not really a requirement any longer, since the Default now deals with the biggest gripes of the older Defaults. Had I come in to the game now, I honestly would not care for any of them any longer :) The huge difference is gone, to me, and I'd rather spend my time on the track :)
     
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  4. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    The Default isn't perfect, yet :) There are nuances that might be very important to the advanced user or the user that already has adjusted to some specific sensations.

    Clipping is def. one thing they should improve and I'm hopeful that will happen soon as it's trivial. It does not clip for me, only because I don't run high gain, being on a DD wheel base.
    The road details are very subjective, some like them more exaggerated, some not at all. To me they felt ok. I used to like them more exaggerated, but it changed. I would think the FX slider would make them more pronounced if you push it higher?

    The biggest issue I have had with Default was the EXTREME game-feel on a DD or other high end wheel base. It is still there, but the dampening does enough for me that I wouldn't look for custom files to fix it, as a gamer. Not perfect yet, but better on the few cars I test drove.

    For anybody that want's to twiddle, custom files are still great. Not saying they're not! And they do provide interesting twists.
     
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  5. Kiryu

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    I have tried to compensate for the loss by adjusting the FX-slider, sadly, the results where not satisfiying for me. But maybe i just need to try higher values, will check that out later today.

    As for the clipping, i am running the same wheelbase (SC2 pro) at around 15-16Nm and with a gain of 35 i still get clipping sometimes when hitting curbs, massive undulations (like in the run out zone on the nürburgring) and on corners like Frog Hollow/Sulman Park on Bathurst when the suspension compresses.

    Guess the gain is still too high o_O
     
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  6. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    I hope Reiza reads this :)
     
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  7. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I think you may have misunderstood my point: I was saying that HM2.3 still feels significantly better than the new default to me.
     
  8. Kiryu

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    But...i basically said the same.

    Or at least i though so :D
     
  9. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I still think that both the NuScorpii HM and Karsten's Silver Raw files are better than Default, as good as default is. I find that the default is still very vague around centre for me, no matter what I change.
    @Karsten Hvidberg - I just tried your latest file, and it was very smooth, too smooth for me. I have upped a lot of the settings, and it really feels good to me now. I wonder if you could tell me what setting to change to get a bit more ramp up of strength on hard turns? I thought it was (static_force_reduction), but I have lowered that to 0.1 and it seems the same as it was. Thanks, keep 'em coming, if you get time that is. Thanks.
     
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  10. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Lol. I think we’re in agreement then. ;)
     
  11. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hi Michael,

    We're all mind-readers here :)
    I happened have the same thought & have just posted one more update. 6.6.5.9.9.9.9.9.
    Hmm.. Have been running towards that 6.6.6 asymptote.. But it's beginning to look inevitable :)

    I would be curious if you like these changes or still need to tweak those too?

    Reg. your question try going to 0.0 on both the static reductions.
     
  12. sherpa25

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    Which version of the New Silver do you use w/ PC2, v665999.9?
     
  13. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Still using 5.9/3.0 and it works just fine on latest release with G920. Not exactly sure what the AMS2 damping slider does, so for now I just minimized it.
     
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  14. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Sherpa,

    For PC2 you need the pc2 specific file, since there are some system features that differ in the 2 titles.
    The PC2 is called "Silver Project", latest version is 7.3. Here's link to page on racedepartment: Silver Project Custom FFB
     
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  15. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi Karsten, does your new version include the new brake-effect (Steering resistance) parameter?

    I've been using the Default since the last few beta-updates but, center feel is a bit loose for my liking (at least with the new cars). I'd like to retain the brake-effect if I move back to a custom profile.
     
  16. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hi Dean,

    Yes it does, by pure chance I had added it myself as well... Weird...
     
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  17. Shadak

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    I agree with this :) latest Silver file for PC2 literally transforms the FFB and makes the feeling very close to the best DD wheels can produce. Close to the raw rf2 feel.
     
  18. sherpa25

    sherpa25 Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thanks. Though FFB may be better, would this help address the ‘understeer’ and ‘under-inflated tire feel’ still be present with the cars (ie. GT3 cars)?
    Will reinstall w/ some free time to test.
     
  19. Clippy2020

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    I like the new defaults, no complaints, just wish for an "understeer enhance" feature, you know what I mean? From codemasters F1 or assetto corsa, there you have understeer enhance feature. I use a t300 Rs.
     
  20. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    What does that do better?
     

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