Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. deadly

    deadly Well-Known Member

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    Thrustmaster TS 300
    No matter which custom file I use, I have no feeling for the center of the wheel, especially with cars which love to bounce like rabbits as the Formula V_12. Do not have these problems with any other Sim (RF2, AC, RRE). When I increase the FFB Boost, the wheel just feels heavier and gets more snappy, but the feeling for the center still is bad. Is there any line within the custom ffb files where I can change that?
     
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  2. TKracer

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    Hey this feels great! I do notice I get some heavy oscillations on straights at high speed. I think I've seen a few other people talk about this. I am going to play around with dampening to see if I can mitigate it .

    But thank you for a great starter!
     
  3. GearNazi

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    That's for the Kuku v3 of Rfuktor 4.6.

    The different files through the times have varying parameters that influence this "center-deadness" it seems.
    There is no reason your TS300 should suffer from this in ams2, I'm currently on a slightly modded TS300.
    What is required I find, is trial and error, and try some of the many, many different files out there.
    I've had the same custom one for a while now, and I'm loving it, very rFactor-y.
    I used to have a Mega account, but if you know an easy way to share the file I will gladly help you out.
    Or just PM me, I'll attach it to an email.
     
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  4. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    @GearNazi you can just attach it here using the "Upload a File" button. It's just below the text input box.

    I'm sure lots of people would be interested in trying it out. Other people's tunes are the best thing about this whole thread. :)
     
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  5. deadly

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    https://easyupload.io/ is an opportunity. No registration required.
     
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    GearNazi Well-Known Member

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    As soon as I get home...
     
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  7. GearNazi

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    https://easyupload.io/kke0q0

    So much has been tweaked back and forth with this one, I've no idea where it even came from.
    It's a mish-mash of different peoples' work.
    I use 100 gain, ZERO lfb(sometimes 10/15, but I find it introduces a weird friction that doesn't feel natural to me...)and 50 FX. Damping isn't my cup of tea either, but I set it to 30/35-ish sometimes on cars with power steering.
    I try new files frequently, but I always end up missing this one.
    Switched back and forth between this and the default ffb, and found it to be an absolute horror show?!(Sorry Reiza!)
    Something is really off with that, though it seems to work lots better with the newer cars, that can't be a coincidence, right?
    Another thing I've noticed is that though it feels weighty, my t300's motor doesn't heat up nearly as much as with most other files I've tried. Which is good, I'm after wheel weight, not friction.
    TM settings are as they should be at 100/100/0/0, the spring and damper settings being at zero.

    In the end it's all a matter of taste, but I believe this one serves us belt-plebians really well.
    Let me know...
     
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    I must remember that... Shows how much I really share on this forum.:confused:
    It's up on easyupload now.
    And I completely agree, other people's tinkering is the absolute business.
    If we were to be stuck with the default FFB, I don't think I'd have 1400hrs in ams2 by a long shot.
     
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  9. chonk

    chonk Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    will give this a go now, thanks for sharing it here. I've actually been meaning to give the default another go recently it's been ages since I've tried it.

    Anyway have been driving the G58 and Dpi a lot lately and found the steering in these high downforce cars to feel quite light with Kuku's most recent file in comparison to the last version I was using. Anyway it will be interesting to do some comparison. I should really dive into tweaking the file myself but time is scarce at the moment!
     
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  10. GearNazi

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    Funny, I tried the Kuku V3 yesterday, and found it a little light as well, but informative and nimble and easy/quick to rotate, which Kuku has explained to me some time ago that he likes things this way.
    But this being the case, and the default ffb seemingly so designed as to keep you on the wrong foot at all times(I'm being cruel with Reiza now:p), you should really find my "Frankenfile" to be a nice compromise in attributes we generally seem to look for in our ffb.
     
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    Thanks a lot! Will give it a try. :)
     
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  12. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The file is a normal Karsten 4.6 Fix ... with some tunings different from the original but the same ... with regard to the center, only the increase in centering to 0.85 is detectable, a slight change to the center full ...

    centering 0.85............................................. original 0.50

    and the lines of code are identical except for only two lines relating to the center which have been changed in the value from 25 to 12 and precisely:

    (angle_d_l2 (* angle_d_l 12)).............. original 25
    (angle_d_r2 (* angle_d_r 12))............. original 25


    The file was modified by @LE GAULOIS
    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

    And it can be downloaded the original in the following post here ...
    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

    Thanks @GearNazi for reminding me this ... I want to try again only these two lines of code that I have never tested in my file. ;)
     
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  13. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I think i will delete both of the posts with two different betas of V3 as it’s confusing people by the looks, and i haven’t got the feedback i needed.
    I’ve got a mix of different strength versions of what will be the last version of Delta to upload this weekend before i remove my t300 from service with Simagic Alpha mini to be installed in place next week.
    I’m looking forward to the extra power and fidelity as trying to get strength and smooth low friction rotation out of low end belt wheel is a challenge without saturation of details.
     
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  14. GearNazi

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    Oof?! That Alpha Mini looks the business too...
    I have that upgrade slated for Q1 or Q2 of next year, but my propensity for sticking to these projections are almost as bad as Reiza!(I'm done now, no seriously, it's... It's gone now, all good.)
    It's the one item with our hobby I've been putting off forever, primarily because it gets real expensive so quickly, and it turns me into a greedy monster with the extra rims, the "why not spring for a Podium or top-of-the-line Simucube, and get some buttkickers or a motion-seat while we're at it!".
    But in the end I need to just come back to earth and find some good value, price/performance proposition.
    Or.... The trusty T300rs simply gets involved in a work related accident.:whistle:

    HmoeWAHAAHAAAA! *What was that honey?*
    Nothing dear...:cool:
     
  15. Brett Laurent

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    Hi I'm a bit confused with what Custom Ffb file I need to download for Ts Pc Racer .I had a good one last year but everything has been updated since thankyou
     
  16. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    try this file i use for t500 rs
     

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  17. Brett Laurent

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    Thankyou
     
  18. Brett Laurent

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    Can you please tell me what control setting you are using in game and in thrustmaster cintrol panel thanks
     
  19. Bollocks Basher

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    Hey guys, so I've always loved AMS2 and been my fav sim since it first came out but ever since I got my Alpha Mini I just haven't been able to get the proper feedback that I used to get with my G29, it just feels... Idk wrong? Can someone please recommend me one of the custom files to try out? Also there is nothing I can do either in game or my Alpha manager software to get rid of of strong harsh oscillations that are felt at any speed... This doesn't happen in any other sim nor did it happen with my G29 (or the week I owned a T300)... Pls help! I miss my AMS 2, sim racing isn't the same without it.

    Thanks in advance my Reiza homies, one love.
     
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  20. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    first thing you need to sort is the Alpha settings by the sounds of it, because something isn’t right.
    Join the FB simagic owners group and search for the recommended settings of Technosis ( Dennis Wiltzen ) he is also on you tube.
    I think Forum member Wolfgang has been using an Alpha mini , so perhaps ask for his settings in the general ( not custom) FFB settings thread. https://forum.reizastudios.com/threads/automobilista-2-force-feedback-overview-recommendations.9852/

    Get default ffb working ok , before toying with custom would be my advice.

    I’m waiting for my alpha mini to arrive currently.
     
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