Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    I have a file in the oven that just needs some magic applied to make Karts semi drivable, not that I have any interest in the karts myself.
    It’s still essentially based on 5.0.1 , but the most connected to the car I’ve ever felt. The momentum rack and the physics of each car shine through in a beautifully simplistic way ( by custom file standards) , It’s almost like the steering column is coming through the desk. I’ve done countless sessions of testing different new options but keep coming back to the good old original.
    I’m not sure it will be something non DD wheels will run , it will ask a lot of the bases power range, time will tell.
    Hopefully just another day away.
    Good night all.
     
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  2. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes and No .... I know I don't help you but the right explanation would be the mathematical one and if you open the link on the first entry of the slip in the file you can graphically check how the single variables move the function that describes the slip, or its shape, or its width, and then choose the two positions on it ... o_O
    I try to simplify it, imagine that the transition from grip to slip is described as a function that passes from one straight line to another of different inclination and therefore that starting close they move away ... this whole procedure taken as a whole (and therefore all the function that describes it) you can move it without changing absolutely anything forward or backward in time (pos), so I am not referring to any detail (tyre, edge or other) but I refer to the whole procedure whatever it is.

    Then within this space in the time we are going to define it :
    - you can increase or decrease the weight felt or lost on the steering wheel as it passes from grip to sliding (windth);
    - you can move the effect away or closer on the other hand by increasing or decreasing the inclination and therefore the length of the overall passage regardless of the weight chosen (slope);
    - and finally within this space so anticipated or postponed, with this weight variation and with this distance of jump, you establish where is the limit of grip on the edge before and where is the limit of the end of the slip after and these moments on the function are defined by the two positions "start y" and "end y" ;)

    I don't know if I confuse you or not :)
     
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  3. FearFactor

    FearFactor New Member

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    @Karsten Hvidberg

    Want just to say THANKS for the ---- rFuktor 5.0.1.3 ---- ! :)
    It has changed for me AMS2 completly and my shame that i didnt seen that before.
    Using a TS-PC wheel and i cant stop driving! :Good work! :):D
     
  4. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    Thank you - that's actually really helped :)

    Will continue to play when I can find time.
     
  5. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    Just one comment for the day.... for Fanatec users and the FEI (force effect) setting (I’m on a DD1 btw)

    There seems to be different schools of thought on what this should be set to. I've always had it at 100%, until recently a couple of people have suggested 30% max as it drowns out some FFB signals.

    With FEI set to 30%, I lose all of the granular detail in the feedback due to the smoothing... all of the road texture, micro-bumps, scrub/tear when over and understeering, vibrations etc.... I've just done 15 mins forum reading and to me, FEI is another damper setting - 'smoothing' the input FFB from the game. My wheel when you set FEI to 100 says 'take pure FFB from the game'.

    I tried at 80%, which does reduce a bit of the 'graininess and harshness' sometimes, but from my limited understanding, I'd rather any smoothing of the signal be done in the custom FFB file/game and the wheel translate this in a 'pure' fashion to what's output to the wheel forces.

    So back to 100% for me.... interested in others thoughts on this one?
     
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  6. WarmRed

    WarmRed Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    According to Fanatec you should never go below 80% at FEI because of the latency. If you want to smooth it more, you should increase the INT value.
     
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  7. Michael Enright

    Michael Enright Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I run FEI at 80 on a CSW 2.5 with a 2019 Formula wheel. I find the same as you, go lower and lose feeling. But, at 100, it is just way too much.
     
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  8. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    For me it is 100% undriveable. There seem to be different opinions and attitudes here. It's also possible that Fanatec did it the other way around, as rob described it. strange for dd owners it seems to work very differently
     
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    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I also know of different experiences from dd owners. Seems like it works 80-100% for some and 10-30% for others. strange phenomenon
     
  10. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Wheel settings:
    Sen Auto
    FF 90
    Dri -02
    Fei 50*
    For 100
    Spr Off
    Dpr Off
    Sho 100
    BrF 70

    In game:
    Gain 55
    LFB 10 (+/- 5 depending on car)
    FX 35
    Damping 50 (+/- 10 depending on car)

    *I find having the FEI setting lowered on the wheel and higher FX in game gives a better feel. Higher FEI values bring in a kind of high frequency buzzing for me.
     
  11. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    this was from a csw 2.5 owner at the very beginning of this thread. And with my dd1 it's even more extreme. The problem seems to have existed for a long time, but that simply means either setting it up or setting it down. Then it should suit everyone:)
     
  12. Dean Ogurek

    Dean Ogurek "Love the Simulation You're Dreaming In." AMS2 Club Member

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    Fanatec settings are like a foreign language I just don't understand. :D
     
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  13. Rob Davies

    Rob Davies Bobby Dazzler AMS2 Club Member

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    From what I read, FEI is smoothing from the wheel - hence me wanting it off. That’s 100% for my DD1 but seems it’s 0% for others. The original feature announcement on fanatec forums suggests 0% was no smoothing (in 2017!).

    either way, I still stand by the “let the file do the work” on smoothing rather than wheel. 10% (smoothing) does help allleviate the ‘whine’ Daniel mentioned on the DD1’s but I don’t notice it behind the game noises in my headset and happy to know I’m getting 100% of the detail.
    Perhaps it’s different for belt wheels…
     
  14. dougdude

    dougdude New Member

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    Hey all, curious what is recommend for a T300. I had a brief convo with @Kuku Maddog in another thread and it sounds like he's moved up in the world to a DD!... happy for him! I'm still rocking the T300 so I'm curious if I should just use stock default + or whatever they call it now or try something out with silver raw? I've been away for so long and haven't kept up with the developments here... let alone AMS2 itself.

    Thanks,
    Doug
     
  15. AntoAntoDD

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    In this post you can download last @Stakanov file in version 2.0 … for T300-T500 you can use the YAW version …. the file is very very nice!!! ;)

    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations
     
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  16. GTR886

    GTR886 New Member

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    DD2 New Setting,

    Can you guys share your DD2 Setting for the new custom file?
     
  17. Divit Beria

    Divit Beria Prefer modern cars

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    Whats the universally loved file here for a T150? Been looking for something fresh since default+ seems too muted.
     
  18. Lars Mars

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    lazy people
     
  19. Manolo

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    If you look at a few posts above there are just the settings for the DD1, I don't think those for the DD2 are very different from them, regarding the file to use you could start from the original one of Karsten rFuktor version 5.0.1.4,
    https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-txt.20200/

    or use the latest by Danielkart which for DD1 would seem the most famous (use search), or the latest by Stakanov in the NO YAW version and if you don't like you can insert the values for DD or Alternatives indicated in the file.
    Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

    The same .... or the original last rFuktor 5.0.1.4
    https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/ffb_custom_settings-txt.20200/

    or two posts above your request was communicated what to use for a T300-T500 ... I think it is also the best best choice for you today with T150.

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  20. Alegunner68

    Alegunner68 Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hi all, I've noticed something similar since one of the updates, especially in the stock car 2022 it's like driving over equally spaced cattle grids on the straights..
    Lowering micro bumps helped for me but this is using my old modded file, newer files may be different.
     

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