Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Thanks, I'll give it a go.

EDIT: Thanks, works like a charm.

 

Just tried this on my simplicity 20nm and love it , not to detailed or hyperactive .
What effect does the suspension scale that you mentioned have ?
Many thanks and good job done .

 

It's good.... a toss up between this and Daniel's v45 for me... than you Kuku

 

Hi Aza

it utilises the individual spring and damper behaviour .

so it gives bump information and cornering comprehension information without the need for boosted bump scales .

It can be lest jolty because you get the natural resistance to sudden movements from the suspension damper working to stabilise the spring compression.

it’s great for feeling effects of suspension tuning .

but high values on some cars with either very stiff or very soft suspension with lots of suspension travel can have a effect of the wheel movement down a straight for example, so if one side of the suspension is compressing and the other extending due to undulations in track , you will get small left and right movements on the wheel.

some wheels will highlight this more than others .
maybe the idea range is between 0.4 - 0.7

 

Ah I see. Felt good to me tbh but thanks for the info mate .

 

Wheel diameter and weight will be another variable for different user’s.
that’s why it’s impossible to land on a perfect value to suit everyone .
pretty much everything can be affected by that when it come to user experience.

 

@Kuku Maddog Should I be using your file with a Fanatec CSL Elite+, or is it only for DD wheels? Thanks!

 

Where is FanaLab "too buggy"? What showstopper issues do you face with? There are no known showstopper issues of the latest version. Its extremely stable by now and updates are not "hit and miss" since a while anymore as the basis of the code is really solid now.

 

Good evening! Unfortunately, it is a fact that there are problems with almost every update. Check out the Fanatec forums, there is a lot written about the update issues by people. And I myself and my friends have been affected enough by it. But I hope that it will finally get better with the future updates from Fanatec

 

I dont find a lot of issues in the feedback thread for 1.66. Most of the issues are user errors... As said, no critical showstopper issue is known in the recent version, it's super stable and definitely not "too buggy".

 

As I said, I said that in the past there were very often problems. I didn't say anything about the 1.66. If there are no more problems now and also in the future, then it is also perfect for me and certainly also for all other people

 

Hey, one question: why do you use Suspension 0 in simagic alpha manager? I read the higher value more detailed ffb you get

 

You are able to use it no problems, there is no special requirements for any wheel bases , the main structure of all but a couple of files is fundamentally the same with all rFuktor files .
Minor tweaks may be needed to suit differences in strength and fidelity between different systems , but most should be able to get the core sense of the forces intended by the tune.

 

I intentionally don’t use additional filters in my software when tuning these files as I don’t want to make it dependent on a software setting that other users of other wheel base can’t replicate.
But there’s nothing stopping you from using it on top of it, if you feel it’s better. I find it just amplifies certain effects, like bumps and kerbs etc . Like it makes the peaks of the spikes sharper if you know what mean .

 

I have been using Fanalab for over a year now, and not one problem. Don't understand what problems you are talking about. All Fanalab updates were faultless. There have been some issues with the Fanatec Driver/Firmware updates.

 

That's great if you haven't had any problems with it. Unfortunately I had and I'm not the only one read about updates, drivers, or Fanalab in the Fanatec forum. I am very happy with the dd1 for 5 years but the updates or the service from Fanatec is very bad. Of course, these are my experiences in 5 years, but there are certainly many people who have no problems with it

 

DD1 was released in April 2019, so only 3.5 years ago.
And as I said, most people who have issues with the latest FabaLab versions, did user errors.
Feel free to read through 1.66 Feedback thread. You wont find any big issue report because there are none, it's super stable.

 

sorry I meant for almost 4 years. I also know that you are Maurice and of course you will support Fanatec. But the problems of the past are not invented. I haven't loaded 1.66 yet, so I can't say anything about it yet. As I said, I'm also interested that things are going well at Fanatec because I also have a base from them

 

This FFB file feels really good, thanks for sharing! There are two things though that I'm feeling could be improved:

1. FFB gets very heavy (almost 100% sustained) when going into the grass. Is there an off-road multiplier that I can use to tone it down, like we can do in RF2?
2. There is a slightly notchy feeling on my DD1 when the wheel crosses zero degrees, both left to right and right to left, wonder if there's something that can be done about it. This "notch" is present in most of the rFuktor-derived FFB files, some worse than others, but it's not there in the Default+ profile.

Thanks again!

 

I know what you mean .
there’s been some revisions to the grass physics in recent updates to make it less slippery. there is definitely an increase in friction or texture resistance in dry conditions.

Maybe play around with lower texture scale.
see if it changes at all.

the notch around centre is a by product of the left and right steering and suspension being separate from each other and then a small overlap in center. generally i only feel a noticeable notch under unusual conditions where the loading is just right and there’s a bump or two being transmitted at the same time. it not a constant thing for me anyway.

You can try lower LFB if you use some , or maybe even reduce Centre Full scale .
Perhaps some experimenting with static force reduction timing scale . higher value will slow the response of forces changing which may smooth it out . you will notice the feel and weight of the normal forces increase.