Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. TheMattyOnline

    TheMattyOnline Active Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2019
    Messages:
    249
    Likes Received:
    179
    Also just tried the latest @Danielkart file.
    TS-XW belt file.

    Upped the gain a little and also LFB from the suggested levels, as i prefer a slightly heavier wheel. Feels really good and going to test for a few days.
    Been testing on various cars in the beta and it works very nicely with the 1.6 physics/cars/tracks.

    Thanks very much for your efforts.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  2. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    1.5.9.8.jpg

    ATMOS 1.5.9.8.x BASE
    ATMOS 1.5.9.8.x BASE + Partial Old_D_raw
    ATMOS 1.5.9.8.x BASE + Initial NDef_imm
    ATMOS 1.5.9.8.x BASE + Partial NDef_imm


    Certain circuits are a hell of bumps and curbs (thanks to the users who silently pointed out the need to speed up the corrections to be made on this circuit), if we then add the need to fix what was previously requested by users regarding the bumps, the tests on the beta version of the game 1.5.9.8 were the right opportunity to fix the anomalies.
    The GT3s in "certain circuits" are spectacular and the excessive movement of the cars on video matches the movement of the steering wheel.

    CHANGELOG
    - micro_bumps and kerbs
    (reduced the amplitude of the effects to the original value of the rFuctor, however increased the damping of the same to avoid excessively high peaks in micro_bumps and kerbs and rebalanced everything by increasing the spring of the effects)
    - large_bumps (road and offroad)

    (increased the amplitude of the effects and delayed the onset of large bumps compared to micro bumps, increased damping here too to avoid peaks on medium bumps)
    - suspension
    (increased the amplitude of the effect, changed the final suspension calculation not as a difference between front and rear but as a sum to be able to feel even the largest bumps not previously detected)

    - only some tuning values have been changed in line with what was found by the users who kindly carried out extensive tests and who I therefore thank.

    Those who used the previous version of ATMOS 1.5.9.2 can easily copy their previous tunes into version 1.5.9.8 ... obviously I recommend recalibrating the scales of the 3-4 objects described above (micro and large bumps scale, kerb Surface scale and suspension scale) in order to find their own taste if necessary.

    I remind you that the final adjustments will be made only after the release of the final version 1.6 of the game.

    I hope you like it and as always I hope I haven't made any typing errors... Good evening everyone.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2024
    • Like Like x 8
    • Winner Winner x 7
    • Funny Funny x 1
  3. AllocDK

    AllocDK Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2024
    Messages:
    447
    Likes Received:
    186
    Nice spoiler….
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2024
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. Rodger Davies

    Rodger Davies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2016
    Messages:
    617
    Likes Received:
    653
    edit: irrelevant
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2024
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  5. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    you're right I didn't think about it and it escaped me... I apologize to Reiza for the spoiler, my levity.
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2024
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
  6. racezilla

    racezilla Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2020
    Messages:
    69
    Likes Received:
    22
    Edit: disregard
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  7. TargetRace

    TargetRace New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2024
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    9
    Thanks again @Stakanov for this file that is my favorite. I'm repeating myself like last time on my base it is felt very, very well and all versions of the ATMOS are difference nuance.
    I'm curious to see where it will go and what it will become!! ;)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. wickfut

    wickfut Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2023
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    16
    Q. I have a Logi G Pro wheel with Trueforce. Are there settings within the custom configs which use it, and if so what are they so I can fiddle with them?
    thanks
     
  9. Dmand

    Dmand Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2022
    Messages:
    239
    Likes Received:
    80
    hmm never mind that comment. Just tried the default profiles and the more sensitive files feel more like what was intended
     
  10. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    I apologize if I missed it... everything is ok here and it works as it should, and yes the powersteering is connected to the code... at 0 it is linear and the curve is a straight line and for values greater than 0 the sensitivity increases and tThe straight line curves downwards in a convex manner ... so I don't know how to help you, if I increase the value beyond 0 what needs to happen happens ... that is, with values above 0 less movement (starting from the center) is needed to reach the desired angle so it moves more quickly, but for me is bad, then i prefer 0 ... I don't know what others file you use, in the reiza profiles the rack is secret and the ratio_scale is /10 ((ratio_scale (/ steer_ratio 10))) , in the rfactor it is more sensitive /8 ((ratio_scale (/ steer_ratio 8))), and I wouldn't answer on comparisons or on other users... but many have errors in the code right in the rotation (ratio_scale e steering_angle) ... returning to my file this is the variable...

    (power_steering_angle 0.000)

    and this is the code it links to....

    # Power steering ------------------------------------------------------
    (a_l (abs angle_d_l))
    (a_r (abs angle_d_r))
    (f (* (max 0.001 power_steering_angle) 25))
    (a_l (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 (* f a_l)))))
    (a_l (/ a_l (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 f)))))
    (a_r (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 (* f a_r)))))
    (a_r (/ a_r (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 f)))))
    (a_l (/ a_l (max 0.000000001 (abs angle_d_l))))
    (a_r (/ a_r (max 0.000000001 (abs angle_d_r))))
    (n 0.00001)
    (pn (/ (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 (* f n)))) (- 1 (/ 1 (+ 1 f)))))
    (angle_d_l (* angle_d_l a_l (/ n pn)))
    (angle_d_r (* angle_d_r a_r (/ n pn)))


    and then all is ok ... and this is the graph of the function and how it works.....

    power steering

    If you set the variable L = 0 you will get two lines and no help for powersteering (from center at 0 position)!!! ;)
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2024
    • Informative Informative x 1
  11. KwaziPigInnit

    KwaziPigInnit New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2023
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    2
    Think I may of spoken too soon.

    I have a large-ish lump in my Xiphoid process. Bottom of sternum. Almost big enough to hang me coat on.
    Painfull when I breath and tearing it around the Green Hell. :eek:
    Also pains on the left below my Heart. Blood pressure :eek:
    Anyway I'm fine. I think. Just need to see a Dr, now only if I could contact a Dr :(
    Thanks Crowdstrike/WEF/Blackrock. They are all linked. :whistle:

    When I get a real chance I will give it a good try. For now I'm out of action
    till I rule things out. :(

    Also what is this supposed to be :hurrayreiza: o_O
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  12. Manolo

    Manolo Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2021
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    57
    Thanks for doing these tests and this update to the code of the file (which you will surely refine further in the future), I know you had other thoughts, so a double thank you ... ;)

    You are a good person but watch out for the medicines they give you and then you will come back here all euphoric and you inadvertently get the spoiler (which by the way I missed because I only turned on the PC now) ... life is full of bumps!!! :p
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  13. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Good evening! I know that Thrustmaster T300 or T500 had to deal with overheating problems. And I think they limited the gain at the base. That means 75% (T300) or 60% (T500) is actually 100% gain and the maximum. I also assumed this with the Thrustmaster T-GT / T-GT II / TS-PC / TS-XW and therefore recommended 75% gain on the base. If this is not the case then I will of course correct the values. Maybe you know and can help me? Or someone who also owns a base like this? Thanks for your feedback, it's very useful:)
     
  14. TheMattyOnline

    TheMattyOnline Active Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2019
    Messages:
    249
    Likes Received:
    179
    As far as i'm aware, none of the TSPC variants like my TS-XW suffer from the overheating issues of the T300/500 range. I've always run my wheel base at 100% gain without issues.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  15. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    1,287
    Likes Received:
    1,335
    Thank you for this information. Then of course 75% gain at the base is wrong and it should be 100% as you set it
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2020
    Messages:
    594
    Likes Received:
    821
    OT: Thanks Manolo but for the euphoria shouldn't have escaped me (we play but for Reiza it's work and real life), but you're right about one thing, the bumps in life make you understand and get to know many good people or those who behave in a genuine way. .. this time (unlike many others) I dealt with good people, understanding and respectful of me and above all of Reiza, then thanks to them. END OT

    Regarding the file, I think that now we need to slightly reduce the stretch and deformation of the tires which have softened a bit in sensation following the increase in damping (bumps and kerbs) and suspension... but let's wait the beta stabilize a while.
     
  17. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2020
    Messages:
    110
    Likes Received:
    38
    This file works very well with my R9 V2 my new goto file thanks for all your work
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  18. Stepy

    Stepy Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2020
    Messages:
    124
    Likes Received:
    60
    AMAZING M8 your best yet !
     
  19. muzarati

    muzarati Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2016
    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    25
    Love your V12 the best so far :), with this V13 I find it lighter, and I don't get the same resistance or spring on the wheel when cornering under heavy load, is something I can adjust? Also is it possible to increase forces on the nose of the car? (i.e under nose to tail contact)
    Love your work ;)
     
  20. xNAPx

    xNAPx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2024
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    61
    What's changed from v4000? Is there a way to make the loss of grip more prominent? To feel much more that you're loosing the car?
     

Share This Page