Featured Automobilista 2 V1.6 Development Update - The New Cars

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - News & Announcements' started by Renato Simioni, Nov 11, 2024.

  1. Badi1994

    Badi1994 New Member

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    I've driven some Huracan ST in ACC in preparation and it made me so nostalgic after the gallardo supertrofeo.

    I really wish Lamgorghini stuck with AWD (as was the case with gallardo) with the Huracan too.

    A modern AWD GT car would be really unique in the sea of RWD machinery :) anyone else share the sentiment?
     
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  2. ricxx

    ricxx Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    To all those peeps who can't wait that V1.6 finally arrives I'd recommend to read the complete changelog first, maybe while downloading the update to get an idea of what and how much has changed. It should also inspire you to try out a few things if you don't know what to do first.
     
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  3. Badi1994

    Badi1994 New Member

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    Enter "I'd put my patchnotes right here... if I had any!" meme :D
     
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  4. farcar

    farcar Well-Known Member

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    Reiza could put out a statement something like:
    "Such is the nature of software development, that a date estimate we give you today might be out the window tomorrow - for example if an unforeseen issue is discovered that requires a lot of code to be refactored"

    They could then put out a poll saying: "Would you still like us to give you date estimates anyway, even though they are subject to large changes as described above?"

    I can guarantee you that the community would overwhelmingly vote 'Yes'.

    ...and the usual vocal minority who voted Yes in the poll. would still bitch and moan anyway, when dates move.
     
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  5. T.Ives

    T.Ives 1.6 Forum Survivor

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    Can a beta member please tell me this,
    Is the formula vee or formula junior close to the skip barber in AC/iracing/RF2 in 1.6?
    I love the low grip / easy to spin feel the skippie has in those games, vee+jr are close in 1.5 but still way too manageable, I'm hoping 1.6 makes them more punishing.
     
  6. Ettore

    Ettore Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    You know they differ in the rear suspension architecture compared to the iracing ones, right?
     
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  7. TheCasualDriver

    TheCasualDriver New Member

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    TL:DR With the typ of work Reiza is dealing with, it's hard to give good estimates and traditional methods of estimating something might not work at all.

    Humans are exceptionally bad estimating time. We've learned that the hard way in the software industry. I would like to offer some alternative models on how to give some project insights to customers/ users.

    1. You be transparent about the remaining work items. Like, we have 5 big and 2 small tasks left. You then maintain a basic status and the people can see for themselves what is worked on, done and still to do.

    2. You use historical data. Like, in the past it usually took us half a year completing 5 big and 2 small tasks.

    I have no experience in the game industry but when you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, like implementing tire hysterisis in the madness engine, traditional estimation methods do not work. You only see the full picture (problems, obstacles, etc.) while implementing the feature.

    None of those options are perfect, it's always a trade off. But all of them require effort, time and money.

    Since this post is brutal off topic, no hard feelings from my side when it might be deleted.
     
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  8. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    The F-Vee in 1.5 is too punishing relative to real life and the F-Trainers were too "slidey." They are both significantly closer to realistic in 1.6. I have driven an F-2000 extensively in real life (see my avatar...that's actually me), which is basically a Formula Ford with a bigger engine and wings that don't do much until at very high speeds. If you think either of those cars is not punishing enough in 1.5 then you are firmly in the "video game" camp and will likely be disappointed with the updates in 1.6. Those interested in authenticity should be well pleased.
     
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  9. T.Ives

    T.Ives 1.6 Forum Survivor

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    I did not.
    A better comparison is the formula vee in ams1.
    Very easy to push and spin
     
  10. T.Ives

    T.Ives 1.6 Forum Survivor

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    Okay.
    Im just a guy who wants something in ams2 that feels like the skippie (AC) / fvee (ams1).

    I think it's more the catchability of most if not every slip with the current vee compared to the one in ams1. I don't know what these cars feel like irl and I will never drive one but I know I like a certain feel in Sims, I don't care what shape or name it comes in.
     
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  11. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Fair enough. You should like the care required when using cold(er) or overheated tires in any car :)
     
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  12. deekracer

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    So glad to hear b/c these are the cars I want to drive to learn unfamiliar circuits. I've always struggled w the F-Vee and the Trainers. Will changes to F-Jr be similar?
     
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    Dolph Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    The jerk is surprised, he is not liked. If this wasn't so predictable, it'd be funny.
     
  14. Dicra

    Dicra Local Gamepad Ambassador AMS2 Club Member

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    You mean by accusing him of "not being able to stop smooching Reiza's ass" because he "PAID THEM TO BE THEIR BETA TESTER"?

    Yeah no idea how any other beta tester could think this was also directed at them xD

    And no, I personally did not pay for my beta access, I don't know whether that makes my smooching better or worse in your book ;)

    Having said that, Reiza communication around releases is usually an own goal because the guy responsible for it is also responsible for AI calibration, physics, financial matters, licensing, workflow organization, employee management etc pp. Seems to me like, within all these things, marketing usually is the first one that falls short.
     
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  15. john Ellis

    john Ellis The Rectifier of Names AMS2 Club Member

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    Sorry to offend you, but it’s far worse than you could imagine … in 2020, I paid Reiza the grand total of $99.99 for AMS2, its 2020-22 season pass, and beta access. Reiza later gifted early adopters like me all future DLC content when the Paddock Club was formed. I can’t name a single sim that I have ever purchased from any developer that tops that amount of value. Apologies, again, if some of us here simply accept AMS2 as the literal gift it is and leave it at that.
     
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  16. BazzaLB

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    Personally, I love how the Formula Junior handles in 1.5. You can hang the rear out in a nice controlled fashion. It feels fantastic around Monaco. I hope it doesnt change too much if I am honest. I dont want it to handle like some car that it isn't. This is from someone who loved the skippy in rf2 btw.
     
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  17. gmanhunt

    gmanhunt New Member

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    Holy COPE
    I don't know why the lot of you are so triggered, but I guess I must've hit close to home :D
    Thanks for the free supply of salt.
     
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  18. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Yes, I also find these the perfect cars to learn a new circuit. Fantastic visibility from the cockpit, not too much power, but enough speed to make it interesting.

    The F-Junior is a different beast thanks to its low-grip, skinny, 1960's bias ply tires. Requires much more effort to keep it between the white lines compared to the successors on modern tires.
     
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  19. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    Rashly insulting someone who tries to contribute usefully here (sometimes for many years) can often do that. Especially when you make a foolish comment that reveals you do not understand how the beta program works.
     
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    That, plus what seems like limitless revs, makes it so much fun. The only practical way to drive them is sideways. Of course, can only do so many laps in that fashion.
     

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