Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

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  1. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps what they meant was "if you change from 900 to 1080 in-game, Moza's driver/software will adjust accordingly without user intervention (on Moza side)".
    If both game and Moza driver have the same value it will work just as it should (a car with 450º amplitude will have soft bumps there, emulating the real car characteristics, even if game+Moza have 900º on setup).
     
  2. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    It's very simple--set the wheel to 900 and see if you get 180 in a go kart and 900 in a F-Truck. MOZA told me no, but some users are saying it does work. It could use soft bump stops (how most other wheels do it), but I don't think that is the only way. A synchronization feature could adjust the master rotation setting to achieve the same ends. @Inkta and others can confirm.
     
  3. Inkta

    Inkta Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I can confirm, it works like others say. Set it to 900 degrees, and enable the synchronization and voila, it works without any issues.
     
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  4. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how you come up with such false information and make such statements without owning a Moza base.It works exactly the same with a Moza base as it does with a Simucube, a Fanatec, or any other base.

    1. Set the "Maximum Steering Angle" to 900 degrees.
    2. Set "Synchronous" to ON.
    3. Calibrate your steering wheel to 900 degrees in the in-game settings.

    That's it; the game will take care of the rest. A kart will have a steering angle of approximately 180 degrees, a Porsche 992 GT3 will have a steering angle of approximately 540 degrees, a Chevrolet Corvette C3 will have an even wider steering angle, and so on.

    There are even various "Preset Modes" where you can save your own preferred FFB settings in the Moza Pithouse for Drift/Formula 1/GT/Karts/Rally, or Trucks.But here, too, it's important to set the "Maximum Steering Angle" to 900 degrees.
     
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  5. Marc Collins

    Marc Collins Internal Tester AMS2 Club Member

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    I thought I made it clear above that my information came directly from MOZA. If you care, PM me your e-mail address and I will send it to you as proof. Anyway, topic is now moot.
     
  6. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    I'm not interested. I have a Moza and I know what it does. The issue is closed for me :p
     
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  7. zakir abbas

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    any one can give me fast setup for caddilac GTP that car is way difficult to setup
     
  8. GFoyle

    GFoyle Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Yeah, I haven't noticed any weird stuff in AMS2 with my v1 R21 either like that. I actually had higher angle in pit house earlier and to me it was just maximum any car could have.

    LMU when I tried after a break couple of weeks ago felt strange though, as if I would had more turn the wheel a lot more than I would expect (with similar setup).
     
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  9. Danielkart

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    Every simulation feels different, including the steering angle, and there are differences.You've played LMU for a while and gotten used to exactly this steering angle.900 degrees is actually always the "standard". Adjust the steering angle for each car in the setup; it makes a big difference.
     
  10. Joaquim Pereira

    Joaquim Pereira Well-Known Member

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    Chinese culture is very different from our own (Europe/US/Canada, etc.).
    I believe they were thinking about something else... (perhaps your english is not very good :D:D:D).
    There are settings for that on Moza's software.

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  11. Dmitry

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    Please tell me which settings to use in moza pit house for r12 with v 6000 extreme
     
  12. Danielkart

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    Open the custom file V6000 Extreme 6. Here you can see the recommended settings for your Moza R12 and the recommended in-game settings
     
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    Thanks
     
  14. Danielkart

    Danielkart Well-Known Member

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    Hello guys and hello girls!

    "V7000 Topspeed" is ready for you. These 2 files are adapted to Reiza's update 1.6.4.2 . The focus was on a better distribution of force when braking and a clearer general FFB, which you can ultimately feel with your hands on the wheel.

    You can read the additional improvements and changes of V7000 Topspeed further down in the changelog, all other improvements from V6000 extreme to V6000 extreme 6 remain as before. I also try to give you very precise recommendations for the in-game settings and base settings, so that you get as much feedback as possible, but as little clipping and anomalies as possible. The goal is to adapt your base and your in-game settings as perfectly as possible to the V7000 Topspeed file and to use the potential of your base as much as possible. However, I would like to point out that these recommendations of mine do not automatically have to work for previous files of mine or other files or Reizas defaults.


    Changelog V7000 Topspeed:

    1. The too high forces and too high force increases in different situations have been adjusted again in both files
    2. The excessive forces during hard braking have been reduced
    3. The understeer feeling is now more noticeable
    4. The road noise has been reduced because there were overlaps of other FFB-Details, so you now know even better and earlier how the car behaves
    5. Vibrations have been reduced by the above-mentioned interventions (especially noticeable with vibration-prone bases such as Moza R5 or Moza R9)
    6. The FFB is now more harmonious and purer than before


    The 1st file is for dd bases (and as an exception for Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5) and was adapted and tested with a Simucube 2 Pro and a Moza R21 V2 :

    Optimized for Simucube 2 Pro (25Nm) (My reference base)
    Optimized for Simucube 2 Sport (17Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R21 V2 (21Nm) (My 2nd base)
    Optimized for Moza R16 V2 (16Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R12 V2 (12Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R 9 V2 (9Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD1 (20Nm) (My Former Base)
    Optimized for Fanatec Podium DD2 (25Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec CSL DD Base (8Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport DD Base (12Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport DD+ Base (15Nm)
    Optimized for Simagic Alpha Mini (10Nm)
    Optimized for Simagic Alpha (15Nm)
    Optimized for Simagic Ultimate (23Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek Prima (12Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek Forte (18Nm)
    Optimized for Assetek Invicta (27Nm)
    Optimized for VRS (20Nm)
    Optimized for Cammus C15 (15Nm)
    Optimized for Cammus C12 (12Nm)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T818 (10Nm)
    Optimized for Conspit Ares (10Nm)
    Optimized for Conspit Ares Platin. (18Nm)

    Optimized for Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5 (8Nm Belt-Base)



    The 2nd file is adapted and tested for belt/hybrid bases and beginner dd bases with a Thrustmaster T300RS.

    Optimized for Thrustmaster T128 (2Nm) (Hybrid-Base)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T248 (3.5Nm) (Hybrid-Base)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T150 (2Nm) (Hybrid_Base)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T300RS (4Nm) (My tested base)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T500 (5Nm)
    Optimized for Thrustmaster T-GT / T-GT II / TS-PC / TS-XW (6Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec CSL Elite (6.3Nm)
    Optimized for Fanatec CSW V1 (5Nm)

    Optimized for Fanatec CSL DD Base (5Nm)
    Optimized for Moza R5 DD Base (5Nm)
    Optimized for Cammus C5 DD Base (5Nm)


    General information:
    All these recommendations and suggestions and these 2 custom files are based on my personal taste and my interpretation of how FFB should feel with all the compromises that a (simulation VS reality) entails. It is also based on my experiences with many different systems (bases and immersion hardware) and of course from nice guys based on their feedback, many thanks at this point to these guys. In addition, it should be very easy even for beginners who prefer a custom file, but don't feel like and have time to deal with FFB or all the complicated settings. Then just take the file for your base and set the recommended settings, that's it. Whether someone likes it or not is another subjective thing, if so it's good and if no it's good. There are enough other options with different customs or the defaults of Reiza so that everyone can find their preferred settings.
    The bases are very different. DDs are fundamentally different from belt bases. The forces, processing and output of FFB , the rotation speeds , the torque slew rates ..... and much more. In my opinion, these many differences cannot be solved with only 1 custom file. That's why I have these 2nd files, because they are very specific and precisely tailored to the systems (bases).


    Notes for advanced custom users:
    Always use 100% vehicle-specific FFB for these V7000 Topspeed files, otherwise you will change the file and clipping or loss of FFB may occur. The most important slider for these 2 files is the IN-Game Value (FX). The recommended value should not be exceeded, otherwise clipping and other anomalies may occur. On the other hand, this value (FX) can be reduced at will to find your personal sweet spot. Especially interesting if someone is on the road with motion or butt kickers or VR or other immersion hardware and it can then lead to a sensory overload. I know people who then reduce it, I personally ride with the recommended FX values because I love to feel a lot in the wheel and thus in my hands, decide according to your personal taste. Finally, a recommendation from me: Reduce the throttle sensitivity and the brake sensitivity in the in-game settings, I have reduced both values from 50 to 0. Ams2 is the only simulation where I leave this linearity, but with it you achieve much more feeling on the brake and on the throttle and the dosage will be much more precise. Good examples are GT3 or GT1 or GroupC cars without ABS and TC, it will give you a great advantage to reduce the sensitivity . But enough of the words, it's time to play or rather it's time to simulate


    I wish you a lot of fun and fast and intense laps with the V7000 Topspeed

    1 File: Daniel's Custom File V7000 Topspeed for dd bases and (Fanatec Clubsport Wheelbase 2.5 Belt-Base)
    2 File: Daniel's Custom File V7000 Topspeed for belts / hybrid bases and beginner dds
     

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  15. Harvey Mushman

    Harvey Mushman New Member

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    As always, thank you very much for your work, Daniel!!!!:)
     
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  16. Chewyleaf

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    Thanks a lot for your work on this file. Feels even better than v6000! One question; what parameters control the "springyness" of the centering effect. I also use Moza, but I would like to replicate the centering effect of the Reiza default file.
     
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