Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

It's down at the moment for bug fixing so I'm hoping it'll sort out my problems when it's done.

 

Karsten Hvidberg I tried your last file "Silver Raw 3.1 - Momentum Rack 2.0" (July 3 2020) with my g920 and I found myself very well ... I set the recommended values and then I only increased the gain to have a slightly more marked effect ... Then 100-20-50 ... I really liked it and despite the steering wheel being lighter throughout the rotation, but it remained very coherent and informative ... being lighter and more manageable, I also had a lot of fun on the v8 car that until now I hated for the pendulum effect in the weight transfers now controllable ... thanks for your job

 

G29 FINDINGS and FILE
First of all thank you Karsten and NuScorpii for their great work.
Regarding my findings, the most controversial is this, avoiding modifying the min_force, at least in the g29 it induces a notching behavior (even as low as 0.03) in addition to generating instability in the straights (an almost square wave when the wheel is released) .
The file that worked best for me was the NuScorpii file, just modify the prominence of the kerbs a little up to reduce the FX value (as it is necessary to use a high LFB value, the vibration was increased too much by the textures of the terrain ).
I use these 100/100/25 settings.
The route to get a universal file, at least in my opinion is not to modify the min_force, but rather that the LFB slider need to be used as a real Min Torque slider (as in rFactor2, ACC, etc, etc) not like the setting min_force that works strangely.

I have attached my edited configuration file and I hope it will be useful to those who have a G29, I only had to modify a little the value of FX +/- 5 depending on the type of car.

English is not my native language, sorry for how strange it must sound xD

 

Karsten sent me the file and I had a go at it, he mentioned it is the new file, but you said you still having that issue ah?
Sorry to say but for me, it's working great, I guess as you said, it could be an issue with your wheel. Try a different sim I guess and check the pins inside of the wheel where it plugs to the base maybe. I had one of them breaking 6 months ago and my FFB kept on failing until finally it stopped working and the pin fell off, I could still use it but I had no FFB anymore.

Hopefully is not that! Good luck and if you need any more help let me know.

 

Glad it's working for you. Weird thing is the heavy messing ffb is great, just the straight line feel is lacking for me.
What driver and motor firmware are you on?

 

Latest of both I believe: W Base Firmaware 672
W Base Motor Firmware 22

I'm finding this file has a better scrub, straight line and kerbs feeling than heavy messing. But heavy messing has a decent balance between them too, but better feel of track elevation and car rack weight from car to car.

Try that see if it works, is Karsten's latest I guess, slightly modfied by me and updated by him --- in-game I'm using 65.45.45

 

Still getting the numbness, and the default ffb is next to useless.
I see a few others are getting the same since v1 as well.
Anyway I'm reinstalling now as a last resort, ffb is fine in other games.
Apologies for clogging up this thread with my woes, hopefully all will be well.

 

I share your pain. I had a custom FFB file that was absolutely spot on for me prior to v1.0. Now , not so much. I now have this brutal kick back correction on oversteer that flings you in the opposite direction to contend with. Had this a few releases ago but some custom FFB file tuned it out somehow. I can't find anything that works now. I'm on an old CSW v1. Its either rattly, grainy or vague. I'm sure we'll get there eventually but I am surprised how much the FFB seems to have been effected from the last EA release to v1.0.

I hope it settles down to a point where all your tuning and tweaking doesn't become redundant on the next patch release.

 

Funny it seems you forget this game is still in development, and i hope they don't stop with it.
So far the default FFB made all these custom-files obsolete for me.
Give the default FFB a try, unless freaking around with this file is part of your game

 

Heavy Messing 2.5 Beta

I've been playing a lot of ACC recently and that too has quite a defined centre like rf2. Feels really good so I've been working on trying to get that centre feeling in AMS2 but without losing the natural counter steer you get from weight transfer when transitioning to oversteer. It's quite a simple change in the end, just changed one of the functions a bit and added a new parameter to control it:

(tightness 0.5)

Increase to get a tighter feel, and decrease to make looser. Range 0.0 - 1.0

@Alegunner68 This may be what you were asking for before. Let me know if it gives you a better feeling.

Edit: Removed beta file, latest can be found here.

 

See above

 

Thanks i will, though i think you misunderstand me, the centre feeling i mean is the feel of the road under the wheels. Your latest files are great for cornering feedback, but lacking for my wheel in straight line road feel, there are lots of deadspots on straights when the wheel isn't being turned.
Raising min force adds notchiness and doesn't fix the deadspots.
It's there a setting i can change without overwhelming the cornering ffb?

 

Ah ok, I'd try increasing min_force until you get the notichness and then back it off just one or two steps so you don't feel it. Then up the micro_details for road noise and macro_details for small bumps. The extra tightness in the latest file should help too as it greatly reduces the the flaccid centre of the default, so you'll usually be up against a little bit of force even on the straights.

 

nvm

 

@Alegunner68 I got both at 0.8 - micro_details for road noise and macro_details, it feels quite good

 

Heavy Messing 2.5 Beta 2

Revised the rack variables so that the centre is less notchy.

 

Nuscorpii, with the tyre scrub around the corners there's quite a sharp noise, on the straight you get that as well but more intermittent. I'm thinking it could be the front tyres but is so much louder than the tyre scrub in some occasions that it makes hard to know exactly what's going on, feels like is the rack/metal body of the car vibrating kinda thing. (the kind of vibrant. that you get dragging a flat wooden wardrobe on a wooden floor, if it helps)

I tried changing the macro/micro and the tightness but I can't make it go away or reduce to zero unless I turn FX super low, and if I do that I lose all the scrub, kerb, road details.

 

Here's a minimal file I did for testing something. Let me know if you still get any of those vibrations with normal fx using this.

 

That one is smooth for me.

 

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This file feels very floaty in my wheel, almost like if it was losing ffb sometimes. The one before is actually ok the vibration is bad but not constant and it could be my rig as well, Im saying that cos I tested like 4-5 different files and they all seem to have it.
@Alegunner68 what ffb did you have in-game with the heavy messing from before this file?Thanks