Guys, I am relatively new to modern sim racing... I spent most of my youth racing sim days playing rFactor and Grand Prix Legends... with a lot of silly arcade games like Need for Speed and Sports Car GT and Grid thrown in. Since I jumped back into it this year... I have tried: 1. Assetto Corsa 2. rFactor 2 3. AMS 2 4. Raceroom I dont have much interest in ACC because I like retro cars, and I like single seater open wheel cars a lot. I enjoy sports cars too, just not as much as the other things. So the idea of high downforce, paddle shifted modern GT3 cars is... I dont know, I can take it or leave it. The only games left i think I need to try are PC2 and iRacing, but Niels' video about iRacing's inability to allow for any control with any amount of slip angle kind of annoyed me away from it. Maybe I should reconsider at some point with the amount of fun Ive been having racing online in AMS2... thanks @Damian Baldi , @Marius H , @Koala63, @Andy-R !!! I know we are all fans, that's why we are here, but the amount of criticism I see going around, and the amount of frustratin I have with certain things here.... After playing the games in the above list... the only game even close to being as fun as AMS2 is Assetto Corsa. rF2 has amazing physics, but the UI is just SO bad. It's absolutely awful. The content is limited, the graphics are terrible, the play modes are even more limited than the UI, and it's just an overall frustrating experience. If it werent for the physics and the force feedback, I would have ignored rF2 a long time ago. Unfortunately in VR rF2 gives me some mild but tangible level of discomfort. Assetto Corsa with mods, and content manager, and a lot of extra effort looks really nice and is pretty fun and has a healthy multiplayer, but it lacks leaderboards and I dont like the AI much, and it doesnt seem to get as much online attention for any of the cars I care about. But at least it looks good, works well, and has decent VR support even if it's a little clunky. But AMS2, despite the criticism, especially when played in VR, is so superior to these other games I've tried it's unbelievable to me. All it needs is polish and refinement. I dont think it's genre redefining, but dang if it isnt the best experience I've had by a huge margin! The UI is so much better, even some of it is glitched/broken/labeled incorrectly. The TT mode is fantastic. I've missed that ever since Forza Motorsport 4 that had it. The cars are all gorgeous and feel great. The only physics criticisms I have are 1. The weight transfer front to rear seems a little under-represented on some of the more softly sprung cars. I find that disconcerting. 2. It may be a little too eager to jump into wild oversteer compared to other games... .but with 2, I kind of wonder if this is actually more realistic? I cant feel the g-forces, so it's hard to say. But now, after the hockenheim update, even the AI seems pretty impressive. The game is overall fantastic, with a large collection of Achilles' heels that may or may not be addressed... but I think even if they don't, I'll be playing for a long time.