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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Haven’t tried
     
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  2. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Steam: Nietzroth AMS2 Club Member

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    Here's my DD1 settings, works great with Karsten's files :)
    As you can see I have pretty much everything OFF in the Fanatec settings.
    Overall FFB is high on the wheelbase, I prefer to keep it low in-game.
    [​IMG]
     
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  3. René Corten

    René Corten New Member

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    Thanks! I will try it and response to you :)
     
  4. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    v50 just posted:

    * Huge thanks to @Panos Schoino & @Shadak for the many hours of adjustments & everybody else in the forum for all the awesome feedback to work from.
    * Also huge thanks to Reiza @Renato Simioni @Domagoj Lovric for help providing valuable information making it possible to improve these files further than otherwise would have ever been possible.
    * Fine tuned. Never posted v49 in post #2, since it was not big time fine tuned, but it was really hard to achieve as good and slightly surpass the feel of that one anyways :)
    * More correct deform & stretch calculations.
    * Updated road bumps calculations.
    * Added additional lfb at very small turning angles.
    * All karts working well. Not hugely fine tuned, but def great. These can prob. be made extraordinarily awesome if anybody's up for that fine tuning work.

    Direct link: https://forum.reizastudios.com/attachments/silver-raw-6-6-5-50-zip.12784/
     
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  5. TheNormalOne

    TheNormalOne New Member

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    Excellent, the .50 version exactly meets my expectations for living ffb. Now i can finally replace my .26. My only change is to the tighten section, but every Logitech user has their own preferences here.
    I use a G27, low-end, ingame settings: FFB 40, FX 100, everything else 0.

    Thanks for your efforts, it's amazing what you can get out of an old piece of hardware when the software is right.
     
  6. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    V50 feels extremely well tuned.
    running mid file the only tweaks i feel i want to make are slightly reduced scrub scale, lower rack friction and half the centering value for less friction overall.

    I’m curious about Lat edge , what does it do ?
    for fun i experimented with double the values and also very low value.
    doesn’t make extreme changes but perhaps a little more feel of real grip at lower values.
    is it just a multiplier of lateral force ??
     
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  7. Raceracerace

    Raceracerace Active Member

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    very impressive - thanks for this everyone!
     
  8. ToMythTo

    ToMythTo The Hero We Need But Not Deserved

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    Any recommended in game FFB settings advice for TS-PC(I think high end)? Currently use 55/25/60/30 but I wonder and feel if I can go for any better.
    Edit: For .50 version.
     
  9. Richard appleyard

    Richard appleyard AKA Neworder

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    Here me thinking 49 was great but just tryed 50 file blown me away once again thks for all your hard work T500 RS user high end file
     
  10. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    It was an experiment added to an earlier version. It does not make much sense to have it like this, so I expect it to be removed or changed for v51.
     
  11. Kuku Maddog

    Kuku Maddog Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    Just finished a wee test session before bed, and I definitely enjoy lat edge at 0.0 more , feels less exaggerated.
     
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  12. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Improved Kart feel quite a lot in 10 mins time, so if anybody's doing any karting I have better values for those & just pm me.
    It will be part of v51.
     
  13. Jean-Yves Mercy

    Jean-Yves Mercy Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Hello Karsten,
    The V50 is really great, but for Karts I still prefer the FFB by default.
    So yes, if you have new settings for the Karts, I would like them.

    Thank you
     
  14. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey Jean,

    if you are happy about how Default ffb feels for Karts I see no reason to use a custom file at all, just makes life harder.
    Which wheel base do you use?
     
  15. Jean-Yves Mercy

    Jean-Yves Mercy Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Thrusmaster TX.
    Yes you are right, I can settle for the FFB by default for the Karts :)
    Ideally, Reiza would give us the possibility of being able to adjust the Gain, LFB and FX per car, and to be able to save the changes for each car. Not just the gain as it is now.
     
  16. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Ok, for TX I have no idea how these settings work, but they prob. are better than what's already in the file.
    If you are up for it def. improve them for your base & post back.

    In the "Kart adjustments" section, change these lines:

    (isKart (if (min 0 (- steer_ratio 5)) 1 0))
    (ratio (if isKart 1 ratio))
    (tyre_deform_feel (if isKart 0.1 tyre_deform_feel)))
    (tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.05 tyre_stretch_feel)))
    (tyre_friction (if isKart 0.1 tyre_friction))
    (tyre_resistance (if isKart 1.2 tyre_resistance))
    (centering (if isKart 0.8 centering))
    (tyre_initial_resist (if isKart 0.0 tyre_initial_resist))
    (rack_friction (if isKart 0.5 rack_friction))

    To these:

    (isKart (if (min 0 (- steer_ratio 5)) 1 0))
    (ratio (if isKart 1 ratio))
    (tyre_deform_feel (if isKart 0.2 tyre_deform_feel)))
    (tyre_stretch_feel (if isKart 0.05 tyre_stretch_feel)))
    (tyre_friction (if isKart 0.12 tyre_friction))
    (tyre_resistance (if isKart 0.8 tyre_resistance))
    (centering (if isKart 0.9 centering))
    (tyre_initial_resist (if isKart 0.0 tyre_initial_resist))
    (rack_friction (if isKart 0.1 rack_friction))


    Let me know if that helps for you and also in case you change them to something great for TX be sure to post back.

    Thanks,

    -K
     
  17. Jean-Yves Mercy

    Jean-Yves Mercy Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    thanks I will try.
    I understand that in the same FFB file, you can indicate particular settings only for Karts?
     
  18. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Yes, these ones modify the settings when a Kart is used only.
     
  19. Jean-Yves Mercy

    Jean-Yves Mercy Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Karsten, I need to do more tuning, but the little I have tested goes the way I wanted.
    I'm just missing a little more road feel, but the FX is already strong enough for other cars, so I'm going to search with your settings for the Kart.
    And I also miss a bit of the rough tire feel when it slips.
     
  20. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Another level up and nice improvements. Adding LFB at low angle addition is really feeling good, great work Karsten!

    With Simucube2 I'm running only 5 LFB and 10 Damping now.
     

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