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Automobilista 2 Custom Force Feedback - Overview & Recommendations

Discussion in 'Automobilista 2 - General Discussion' started by Karsten Hvidberg, May 30, 2020.

  1. Kuku

    Kuku Flying Kiwi AMS2 Club Member

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    look forward to trying tomorrow night after work.
    though part of me is semi reluctant as i feel like first rFuktor was damn near as good as it can get :p
     
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  2. SlowBloke

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    That did the trick - thank you very much :)

    So far so good - liking the power steering option via the damper !!
     
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  3. Panos Schoino

    Panos Schoino New Member

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    LoL nobody said about the naming scheme..we thought it would be fun!! Kuku, i have been saying that snce many iterations back, but the file now is super awesome and more things are coming...so stay tuned!
     
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  4. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    The idea is still to assemble the various rFuktor files people create and put in 1 single zip file. It will be the rFuktor3.1 file used unless somebody prefers the rFuktor 3 file.
    @Peter Stefani, let me know if you want me to just copy the values over from your rFuktor 3 mod or if you will post it here & I will take that file.

    It is 100% appreciated with more files per wheel base as we all feel things differently.
    So we at least need 1 file for each: t300, t500, ts-pc. G-series would be good with multiple variations, since they differ slightly, even having the same base.
    We MIGHT need some files for: CSL elite, csw 2.5, accuforce. But these might also be just fine on the existing high end file, I am not sure if some specific adjustments will help.

    Anybody up for perfecting these it's much appreciated.
    Feel no shame in adding to the top line " - Modded by xxxxx", as I will have to do it if you don't do it yourself :)

    Hopefully we get some people to post awesome settings for the bases, but otherwise we post what we got.
     
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  5. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I haven’t tried 3.1 yet but after a lot of tinkering with settings for 3.0, it’s starting to look like the file doesn’t need much, if any tweaking for my CSL Elite. I’ll post my final conclusion soon...
     
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  6. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Btw, the beta branch of AMS2 has further changes to the Logitech Truforce SDK.
     
  7. AxisMagi

    AxisMagi Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Big improvements yet again! The oversteer rebound effect is so much better in the new version, much easier to drive on the limit. I really like the power steering, ended up setting higher gain than usual and attenuating with power steering set at similar level as the main gain.
     
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  8. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Curious in which way?
    Does it mean that when using that wheel base, you have extra adjustments in-game?
     
  9. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    I’m afraid I don’t know. The patch notes say “Further tweaks and cleanup of new TrueForce device and Logitech sdk support”. Elsewhere they specifically mention the Logi G923.

    I just thought it was worth a mention in case any Logi owners go down a tweaking rabbit hole with this change incoming.
     
  10. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Ah, ok, I think it's because the wheel base might not support direct input then, so Reiza has to work with a direct SDK instead. It hopefully should not affect much, most likely it's technical work on Reiza's side that is strictly implementation details with no effects on the FFB signal itself.
    Guesswork on my part for sure :)
     
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  11. torsteinvh

    torsteinvh Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    Testet rFuktor 3.1 on my DD1 now, and I'm impressed :) A long time ago I thought v38 and v43 was just about as good as it was going to get, but you and your team never fail to impress, Karsten :)

    Testet my favorite Porsches, the GT3, GT1 and 962C on the Nordschleife, kept the same settings for all of them, and it felt really good :) I'll probably do some finetuning for each car eventually, but for now I'm just going to enjoy driving.

    Fanatec settings:
    FFB: 75%
    INT: 10
    FEI: 70
    All other filters off.

    In game:
    Gain: 40
    LFB: 10
    FX: 25
    Damping: 10

    No tweaks in the file, kept everything at default values.
    This gave me peak forces on my DD1 at about 11NM. Possibly a bit light for the old cars, and probably a bit heavy for GT3 with power steering, but a fine baseline for further adjustments.
     
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  12. GTR886

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    I'm not really happy with the new FFB update.Im gonna give the rFuktor a try!
     
  13. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    I will check on my base with no smoothing and see what can be done.
     
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  14. Fizzy

    Fizzy Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    So I've tried RF3.1 now.

    As other's have said, you've manage to surpass the brilliance of the previous file. Amazing work.

    So far I've tried the Copa Fusca at Taruma & the F309 at Suzuka.

    The Copa Fusca just felt like a thing of beauty. The feeling of weight and the balance of forces is just so subtle and IMO perfect.

    The F309 felt unrecognisable and at first I was a little perplexed. Previously it had a kind of wooden feel and felt a bit unexciting to drive. After a few laps it clicked with me, and I could drive it again. The new file makes it feel like an edgy monster. Very nice.

    My in game settings are: 70/50/55/~50. I did feel the need to change the power steering effect (damping) when switching cars, but honestly, between 2 such different cars, I think that is pefectly fine. I also changed FEI on my wheel from 100 to 90. (BTW, Non DD Fanatec users: Make sure you have dri set to 2).

    The only slight thing I think I would like to change is to make the kerbs less harsh.

    Karsten, you should have called this file 'The Game Changer' ;)
     
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  15. GTR886

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    I gave the rFukor a try on my DD2 and it feels like there's a lose gear within the direct drive on a GT3 car. I still find the V43 better.

    Update: I need to change the FX slider down from the silver raw to 25 %
     
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  16. ToMythTo

    ToMythTo The Hero We Need But Not Deserved

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    Just wow! This Rfuktor versions are really revolution. Let me tell this way; before with the cars I cant even handle a minute of Nords now I'm able to run consecutive runs.

    Total control of the car. FFB is like a language between you and car and now we totally talking the same Shakespeare passages with my car.

    I just hope reiza wont invalidate these settings with future updates on FFB.
    Great work again.
     
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  17. Karsten Hvidberg

    Karsten Hvidberg Well-Known Member

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    Hey GTR,

    I think your FX slider might be too high.
    It is now working on its own, separate from gain to make it more stable between cars.
    There should be nothing like what you describe otherwise and @Shadak has fine tuned on his DD1, so something must be off in your setup either in fanatec or in-game settings, I think.
     
  18. Stakanov

    Stakanov Well-Known Member AMS2 Club Member

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    But now you are exaggerating ... I can't play in these conditions ... calm down!!!
    :p:p:p:D:D:D

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  19. GTR886

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    NVM, I figured out why the new updates is giving me this grainy texture. I need to Change the FX slider down from the original recommended 50% to 25%.
     
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  20. Peter Stefani

    Peter Stefani Active Member AMS2 Club Member

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    rFuctor-3.1 has an improved cornering experience. The under steer effects going thru cornering is nicely detailed, and once again it was helping me to drive better. I felt a similar torque effect like in rFactor, but 3.1 has quite a few more options to tweak the overall FFB vs. rFactor's FFB, and I have to say (IMO) it surpasses rFactor in that respect. Being able to get the exact feel that you want out of a SIM is what we want, and I think we have that with 3.1 in AMS2.
    For me, I think I can settle in now with AMS2 and just concentrate on driving more, and I'm hoping that any future AMS2 updates will only increase the SIM's performance.
    Again, thanks to all involved in this on-going FFB project. It has really been a learning experience, and the results of all the collaboration should be an example to other developers of how listening and working with their users can benefit everyone.
    NAME: ffb_custom_settings - SlverRaw-rFuctor 3-1_PeterS_G920.txt
    HDW TYPE: Logitech_G920
    DATE: 03-14-21
    IN GAME START POINT: 66-50-46-58
    LINK: ffb_custom_settings - SlvrRaw-rFuktor 3-1_PeterS_G920

    Cheers
     
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